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Rage.Of.Olympus
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Superman would beat the shit out of Summers in h2h. This isn't Thor we are talking about.


You're a crazy person. You'd probably give Superman odds against the Punisher in h2h.


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Cyclops speed blitzes him.


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How can a "cyclops" even compete? He'd have to constantly turn his head to see where to move.

Bad matchup


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Superman has some really good feats powerless.
Also isn't it Canon/relevant that he has thousands of years of fighting experience with WW?


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^^^every argument w. a woman feels like it lasts an eternity.


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Superman has some really good feats powerless.
Also isn't it Canon/relevant that he has thousands of years of fighting experience with WW?


iirc it is, yeah.

The big advantage he has over Cyclops is that, with or without the thousands of years, he still has far more on-panel showings of h2h fights.

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^^^every argument w. a woman feels like it lasts an eternity.


Not gonna lie; I laughed.


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You're a crazy person. You'd probably give Superman odds against the Punisher in h2h.

No, I won't.


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Not gonna lie; I laughed.

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summers armbars clark

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No, I won't.


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A high degree of HtH skill--either powered or powerless--is not really part of Superman's core narrative yet. You see writers do what they will with this aspect of him a lot.
Cyclops being quite skilled HtH (but not a true MA), as well as an experienced and cagey combatant, is pretty core to his mythos, IMO.
So on the whole, I think Cyclops takes this, but Superman surprises Scott by being very, very hard to put down. Supes has a Rocky chin and determination.
However, some of the more skilled Superman portrayals could really make this a contest or even be favored.

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Superman wins, with ease.


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A high degree of HtH skill--either powered or powerless--is not really part of Superman's core narrative yet. You see writers do what they will with this aspect of him a lot.
Cyclops being quite skilled HtH (but not a true MA), as well as an experienced and cagey combatant, is pretty core to his mythos, IMO.
So on the whole, I think Cyclops takes this, but Superman surprises Scott by being very, very hard to put down. Supes has a Rocky chin and determination.
However, some of the more skilled Superman portrayals could really make this a contest or even be favored.


Name the feat where Cyclops has shown superior HtH skill to Superman.

Your laughable mythos argument= your blatant bias. You don't even like Supermans mythos by your own admission.

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It IS part of Cyclops's bio that he's proficient in two martial arts, and a trainer of other X-Men in said martial arts. How about you focus on the actual topic at hand instead of trying to get a rise out of people.


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It IS part of Cyclops's bio that he's proficient in two martial arts, and a trainer of other X-Men in said martial arts. How about you focus on the actual topic at hand instead of trying to get a rise out of people.

Great.

Superman beats expert practitioners of every martial art known to man. He's beaten Luthor, Who has been trained in combat by Amazon's. He himself has been trained by The two greatest HtH combatants in the hero community and street levellers and top tiers, respectively. He consistently fights living embodiment of combat on cosmic and mythical scales as a peer.

Pillow Biter has known these facts for the near 2 decades now that I've known him online, yet he consistently chooses to downplay the facts.

Now I can see Cyke's tactical mind being his main advantage.. and even then..

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Great.

Superman beats expert practitioners of every martial art known to man. He's beaten Luthor, Who has been trained in combat by Amazon's. He himself has been trained by The two greatest HtH combatants in the hero community and street levellers and top tiers, respectively. He consistently fights living embodiment of combat on cosmic and mythical scales as a peer.

Pillow Biter has known these facts for the near 2 decades now that I've known him online, yet he consistently chooses to downplay the facts.

Now I can see Cyke's tactical mind being his main advantage.. and even then..


Better, even if you're exaggerating a tad, imo.

Luthor was considered to be a substandard student by the Amazons, and with Diana, her skills are an equaliser that allow her to compete with his superior strength and durability.

I'll argue with anyone that says that Superman doesn't have legit fighting skill, but you can't let the pendulum swing too far the other way either.

People saying either man wins easily are talking out their ass, tbh.


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Powerless Clark couldn't take a hit from Lex's stump.

Whereas Scott got punched in the face by a f*cking Sentinel and wasn't even knocked out.

Go home, Cosmic. You're drunk.


Powerless Superman fell off a building into a dumpster and tore it apart.

Powerless Superman took hits from Earth-Man (stacked stats of Timber Wolf, Blok, and arguably Ultra Boy's strength and Night Girl's stats) and then re-entry heat.

Powerless Superman seems to win the feat war as well as this fight.


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