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Snoke vs. Mother Talzin
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victreebelvictr
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Snoke vs. Mother Talzin

Battle is in the swamp of Naboo.

Snoke brought his chair to sit on as well. I know that sounds idiotic, but honestly the guy can’t last too long standing.


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Mother Talzin

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Mother Talzin can fight. Ergo she wins.

She stomps in fact.

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Mother Talzin can fight. Ergo she wins.

She stomps in fact.
A five year old can also fight. Do they stomp Snoke as well?

Anyway, what makes you think Mother Talzin wins so convincingly?

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Talzin was a threat to Sidious; said so by the man himself, so if she's anywhere in his league then shes above Snokes league for sure as far as combat goes

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Talzin stomps.

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Talzin was a threat to Sidious; said so by the man himself, so if she's anywhere in his league then shes above Snokes league for sure as far as combat goes
In what specific sense was she a threat to Sidious? Sidious also thought Ventress was a threat, and Maul of all people a "rival" - that does not speak much for their chances in a fight against him.

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Snoke stomps.


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Talzin stomps.


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In what specific sense was she a threat to Sidious? Sidious also thought Ventress was a threat, and Maul of all people a "rival" - that does not speak much for their chances in a fight against him.
Yes, but Talzin actually fought Sidious and proved her match.


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Snoke is too powerful for her.


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Yes, but Talzin actually fought Sidious and proved her match.
To my recollection, Talzin lost that fight, and Sidious is not a woman.

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To my recollection, Talzin lost that fight, and Sidious is not a woman.
It ended up being a three on one advantage and to be fair Sidious has feminine characteristics.


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It ended up being a three on one advantage and to be fair Sidious has feminine characteristics.
Talzin lost despite having Maul's support, and Sidious having the support of a weakened Dooku. All Grievous did was deal the final blow. Sidious having feminine characteristics, however true this is, does not make him a woman, by definition.

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Talzin lost despite having Maul's support, and Sidious having the support of a weakened Dooku. All Grievous did was deal the final blow. Sidious having feminine characteristics, however true this is, does not make him a woman, by definition.
Maul left and she lost his support so despite a 2-1 advantage grievous was still required for the kill stroke.

I know he is an older metro sexual.


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Maul left and she lost his support so despite a 2-1 advantage grievous was still required for the kill stroke.

I know he is an older metro sexual.
By that point, Talzin had already lost. Killing her was merely a formality. She forced Maul's departure in order to spare him from the fate that awaited her.

What traditionally feminine interests and behaviours does Sheev exhibit?

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By that point, Talzin had already lost. Killing her was merely a formality. She forced Maul's departure in order to spare him from the fate that awaited her.

What traditionally feminine interests and behaviours does Sheev exhibit?
A two to one advantage, definitely. She cannot beat both Dooku and Sidious. When maul left her fate was sealed.

Duplicity, cowardice, poor body posture. 😏


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A two to one advantage, definitely. She cannot beat both Dooku and Sidious. When maul left her fate was sealed.

Duplicity, cowardice, poor body posture. 😏
While that much is true, her fate was sealed even before Maul left her side. If it was not, she would see no reason to force Maul's departure; instead he would remain by her side and they would defeat their opponents together. Grievous by this point was out of the picture, as well, so he is not a reason (at this point) for Maul to leave, when he is presumably dead or incapacitated.

However, on your final point, I am forced to agree with you.

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While that much is true, her fate was sealed even before Maul left her side. If it was not, she would see no reason to force Maul's departure; instead he would remain by her side and they would defeat their opponents together. Grievous by this point was out of the picture, as well, so he is not a reason (at this point) for Maul to leave, when he is presumably dead or incapacitated.

However, on your final point, I am forced to agree with you.
Point is Sidious alone did not defeat her. Yes, he outthought her. That was not point. 3-1 is what killed her though. I do not think she would survive against the two but fact is Grievous still killed her.


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