The fact there's a dramatic shift for Leia between approaching the ship and touching foot in the ship indicates it's largely in reference to the dark side energies concentrated in the ship. I don't think Palpatine's presence would be constrained by the ships material like how energies imbued in the walls, air, etc. naturally would (like how they are in Sith temples).
Also, I'll have to find the quote from Veitch saying it's a nexus.
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Not really, no. We know nexuses are confined by space, distance, and physical obstruction - otherwise their energies would seep out uninhibited. Nexuses have been confined by temple walls, natural formations, or atmosphere.
Meanwhile, the source material states that the Emperor is "more powerful than ever" after defeating Luke and departing for Da Soocha V and that same source material identifies him, not the ship, as a nexus.
Also, if the Eclipse were indeed the nexus to which Leia refers, that would also require that it be a more powerful nexus than Byss. This is another reason why that interpretation is... well, suspect, to be charitable.
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If Veitch confirms it then that's a moot point. In fact, your point would only make it worse for Sheev because it'd be an even more extreme amp than Byss is stated to be.
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Just read the relevant part of Ant's post in the CaV...
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...wait, so all this time when the TOR brigade has been bragging about the death wave affecting Ziost's core...this is what you were talking about?
Firstly, you don't need to actually touch the outer core to create temporary disturbances in the magnetic field - you just need an external magnetic field. Solar storms, and indeed large nuclear warheads, can noticeably do this.
Secondly, "geomagnetic pulses", if we guess what that means, could be of any magnitude, and there's basically no reason to think that this feat is actually more energetic than the kinds of firepower force storms are exceeding by being clearly more destructive than base delta zeroes that can boil a world's oceans, blast away its atmosphere and melt its crust. Yeah, let's generously assume the field nondestructively propagated something a few thousand kilometers through the ground - how in the world is this even close to what we see from storms? Even intuitively, the storms are putting entire fleets through tens of thousands of light years! We know that a single imperial star destroyer on jumping to hyperspace consumes more energy than most planetary civilizations do in their lifetimes.
The idea that some vague EM pulses appearing in the planet somehow exceeds force storms that tear apart fleets and bridge wormholes between tens of thousands of light years is just preposterous and it's kind of hilarious that your brigade has been smugly holding this as a secret reason to start scaling Vaylin above Yoda or something.
There is incredibly mild shaking. A few seconds of the Executor's power output coming from that distance away would've been impacting the ship like point blank thermonuclear detonations.
So really faint pulses that aren't enough to knock you down are 1337, but Sidious's force storms can take out fleets of ships faster than their own guns that can turn an entire planet's surface to molten slag aren't. Gotcha.
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Ell, the geomagnetic pulses were continuous. Moreover, it's stated that there were fissures ripped into the surface of Ziost deep enough to drop sub-surface probes into.
But no, unfortunately for you, that's not a secret. It's been in LeGenD's blog for years, kek.
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To briefly clarify, the significance of the pulses are to indicate that the atmosphere and magnetic field were affected. The pulses themselves are not the feat, although they are impressive in their own right (note I don't think anyone has argued they're comparable to Force storms), lol. So, you're either confused or fabricating your own argument to rebut against.
None of your points seems to address my arguments besides the second and third sentences, which I'll get back to you on soon.
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The new development has been to try to scale creating fissures and pulses that can mildly shake a spaceship to taking out an entire fleet of warships and ripping the surfaces off of worlds.
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To clarify before I respond though: do solar storms and/or nuclear warheads produce effects similar to the pulses or space station shaking, and would their effects encompass the entire planet or just a select region?
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1.It means it was a permanent effect on Ziost, it completely changed the make-up of the planet.
2.Causng earthquakes; which coincidentally explains the magnetic pulses, strong enough to rip fissures* deep enough to reach the mantle of the planet, is an absolutely insane feat.
*In the game there's a daily mission where you race a speeder for 1 and a half minutes across a small region, likely no longer than two miles and there's already 6 of them. Scale that upwards and we have hundreds of fissures in the surface of the planet at least. I assume you can do the math there.
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lmao, a Venator's turbolasers cause like richter 9 earthquakes. Are you seriously comparing earthquakes to ripping out a planet's surface? How are the two remotely comparable?
You just destroyed Ziost, thanks. If it's just the consequence of some earthquakes it can't possibly be more energetic than literally disintegrating tectonic plates instead of just shifting them a bit. Any earthquake energetic enough to be more potent than devouring the planet's surface would just destroy the plates instead of causing the earthquake in the first place.
How does this compare to force storms in the slightest? They can destroy capital ships with greater ease than turbolaser barrages that can rend entire planetary surfaces into molten slag. You keep condescendingly gloating about how this feat is "insane" and every time we ask you to actually line it up with force storms and explain how it's better, you pause and just embarrassingly latch onto "earthquakes" as though that's in the same league as creating hyperspace wormholes.
Can you please actually try to compare the two feats instead of just vaguely describing yours and calling it "insane"?
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1.You realise that the daily mission Dead Pulse takes place well after the cataclysm of Ziost itself? The pulses kept going. That's the whole point of the mission.
2.Hardly, I'm postulating that it might have been an effect of the earthquakes. Given my first point though, it being the effect of eartbquakes doesn't take into account that they persist long after the earthquakes are finished.
You've still failed to actually show us where in fact the actual tearing off surfaces of planets feat for his Force storms is. Because Sourcebooks don't introduce new information, they adapt it and retell it in a new format. Which leads me to believe that Ant is correct as far as that statement referring to Coruscant goes.
Earthquakes that rip apart the surface; creating persistent anomalies in the magnetic field; disintegrating every living thing; destroying the atmosphere; absorbing the dark side nexus; absorbing all life and Force energy, and creating a void in the Force. Whilst operating as an incorporeal entity. That's the feat, all in one. At least, it is until I'm finished with my research.
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