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Rage.Of.Olympus
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Re: Re: Why do you care about gender?

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Because we live in a society that socializes people to accept a particular system of gender.

The very existence of transgender people subverts this system in which people are heavily-invested.


Are you saying Gender is a social construct? Sex is binary with a few extremely rare cases. Gender and sex overlap significantly for a large number of people. Society doesn’t socialize people to accept a particular system of gender. Reality does.


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Okie doke, bud. Whatever you and your handwritten dictionary say.


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Are you saying Gender is a social construct? Sex is binary with a few extremely rare cases. Gender and sex overlap significantly for a large number of people. Society doesn’t socialize people to accept a particular system of gender. Reality does.


Gender is a social construct.


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Social constructs are a social construct.


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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Are you saying Gender is a social construct? Sex is binary with a few extremely rare cases. Gender and sex overlap significantly for a large number of people. Society doesn’t socialize people to accept a particular system of gender. Reality does.


Male/female is biology.

Masculine/feminine is the construct.


Guys have a penis, is reality. Guys don't wear skirts, is a construct.


The muddy part, how much of biology goes into gender roles, and how much is social conditioning.

For example, many guys are aggressive. Gun shootings are far more common among men, then they are among women. Can this all be social conditioning?

But not all guys are aggressive. Some are passive. Many are not.


The bullshit Frankfurt school Adam probably subscribes to (No offense, Adam. stick out tongue ) would argue it's all social construct. I, personally, don't trust their view as objective, because they were founded with the purpose of subversion, and people who don't fit into social norms have a vested interest in dismantling norms, or at the least modifying them so they can more comfortably fit in to the mainstream.


I think it's a futile effort, myself. After decades of theory, people still largely behave as they have since the 1940's. Even liberals don't "really" fully accept those they claim to represent, as examples are abound of disparity within their own communities. Alll that's changed, is what people say, but not what they do.


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Because we live in a society that socializes people to...





A parents love for their child: Is this social construct?

If not for socialization, would parents have a unique attachment to their children?

Or could this be founded in biology?


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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.

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A parents love for their child: Is this social construct?

If not for socialization, would parents have a unique attachment to their children?

Or could this be founded in biology?


Probably in part, but the strong bond (to the point of self sacrifice in some species) parents have with their offspring probably has a lot to do with biology and evolution, especially in mammals where offspring usually rely on a parent(s) to survive. eg if mommy dear didn't feed and protect baby deer, deer would cease to exist barring outside influences.

The parent-offspring bond might be mixed in there with survival instincts as well.

Also this:


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Leftists think Gender is Fluid...but the only FLUID is their brains leaking out of their ears.


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There are only two genders.

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Still self-triggering over gender, oh my. Maybe make a New Years resolution to just let it go?


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Still self-triggering over gender, oh my. Maybe make a New Years resolution to just let it go?


Stop projecting, nobody cares.


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You two just need to kiss and make up.


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There are only two genders.

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Which one are you?

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