If that's not a one off, you've got a good case. If not, a one off is a one off.
As for the other stuff, Iron Fist has speedster reactions, pre-cog, and a one shot kill Iron Fist.
My point, of course, is that I completely agree Vader crush's heralds, as I'm certain you'll agree Iron Fist crush's heralds.
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I'm mentioning him, to show many of the arguments in favor of Vader, can be applied to characters that don't get Vaders pr department. Characters many may argue lose to four members of the Bat family, without prep.
Like my response to Darksaint just now.
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So far, the galaxy wide force choke is the ONLY thing. And that proves range, not power.
And the combatants aren't at Galaxy range (Also, took me a minute to realize you were probably talking about the famous ESB scene. )
As I already mentioned, Darth Vader did try choking out an armored Rancor. And he failed.
The armor stopped his choke from working.
Sif is pretty durable.
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Having a one shot kill power with insane range and no limits targeting is pretty....yeah lol. Imagine I made a character who could instantaneously attack someone across a huge range, no targeting (even Prof X needs to find someone first lol)..
And you rely on a low showing, lol. Considering Invisible Woman is able to stalemate Danny Rand etc....I mean, shall I play the same game?
But the implication wasn't that the armor blocked the force itself. It blocked the choke.
Reinforced it's throat, so Vader couldn't constrict the trachia. The mad scientist was well aware of Vader's abilities, so probably lined the things throat inside and out, like a cyborg.
And again, Sif's pretty durable.
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It's hard to rely on high feats, when no one's really referenced any.
I mean, I'd "like" to see this monster Vader for myself. Considering I've posted multiple scans over the years of my favorites, only for them to be ignored or lowballed, it would be nice to be on the other side for a change (I'd probably be more then fair about it, since we're not talking about Carver or Dragon Ball.)
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The Rancor had a plate reinforced thorax that was able to prevent an initial force-choke attempt from Vader. We have absolutely NO idea what that "plate" was comprised of, however, nor if it could have withstood another attempt. It's also ONE showing that does not outweigh all of Vader's other showings.
Sif's neck is protected only on the outside (if she remembers to wear her full armor... other times it's just exposed) and she doesn't benefit from the alien physiology.
your bias and overall lack of understanding are showing.
1. Casually lifting two AT-ATs is a multi ton feat. Casually stopping the movements of an AT-St is a multi ton feat. Casually ragdolling someone that could direct the fall of a star destroyer is a multi ton feat. Using tk to tank a weapon facility going nuclear is a muti ton feat.
2. He was explicitly said to be close to the level of someone that could choke people from half a galaxy away, break into alternate dimensions using only his skill, and could literally tear the very fabric of time and space itself apart.
3. Where does physical strwngth even matter? It's not like Luke or Danny or anyone else can flex their heart when it's being crushed. Even one of the most durable characters in comics (superman) has had parts of his brain successfully crushed by tk.
The fact that you try to hand wave away feats like this is really telling.