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DarkSaint85
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You forget the precog, the speedster reactions, the one shot kill lightsaber...

Oh and the Force Choke across the galaxy.


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You forget the precog, the speedster reactions, the one shot kill lightsaber...

Oh and the Force Choke across the galaxy.


If that's not a one off, you've got a good case. If not, a one off is a one off.

As for the other stuff, Iron Fist has speedster reactions, pre-cog, and a one shot kill Iron Fist.

My point, of course, is that I completely agree Vader crush's heralds, as I'm certain you'll agree Iron Fist crush's heralds. thumb up


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Iron Fist is not in this thread and he, same as Vader, could solo thousands of Whore Sifs.

So why you mention him again?


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Iron Fist is not in this thread and he, same as Vader, could solo thousands of Whore Sifs.

So why you mention him again?


I'm mentioning him, to show many of the arguments in favor of Vader, can be applied to characters that don't get Vaders pr department. Characters many may argue lose to four members of the Bat family, without prep.


Like my response to Darksaint just now.


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When Iron Fist can one shot kill people across wide distances, without even seeing them, then sure why not.

But he can't. So nope.

Many of the arguments, sure. Not all. So not applicable.


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When Iron Fist can one shot kill people across wide distances, without even seeing them, then sure why not.

But he can't. So nope.

Many of the arguments, sure. Not all. So not applicable.


So far, the galaxy wide force choke is the ONLY thing. And that proves range, not power.

And the combatants aren't at Galaxy range (Also, took me a minute to realize you were probably talking about the famous ESB scene. smile )

As I already mentioned, Darth Vader did try choking out an armored Rancor. And he failed.

The armor stopped his choke from working.

Sif is pretty durable.


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The ship armour didn't stop him from choking this guy...

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@DS85

Do you have that Rancor scan on hand, maybe?

Cd wanted to refute it.


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So far, the galaxy wide force choke is the ONLY thing. And that proves range, not power.

And the combatants aren't at Galaxy range (Also, took me a minute to realize you were probably talking about the famous ESB scene. smile )

As I already mentioned, Darth Vader did try choking out an armored Rancor. And he failed.

The armor stopped his choke from working.

Sif is pretty durable.


Having a one shot kill power with insane range and no limits targeting is pretty....yeah lol. Imagine I made a character who could instantaneously attack someone across a huge range, no targeting (even Prof X needs to find someone first lol)..

And you rely on a low showing, lol. Considering Invisible Woman is able to stalemate Danny Rand etc....I mean, shall I play the same game?


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The ship armour didn't stop him from choking this guy...

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I can't make it out.

But the implication wasn't that the armor blocked the force itself. It blocked the choke.

Reinforced it's throat, so Vader couldn't constrict the trachia. The mad scientist was well aware of Vader's abilities, so probably lined the things throat inside and out, like a cyborg.


And again, Sif's pretty durable.


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Having a one shot kill power with insane range and no limits targeting is pretty....yeah lol. Imagine I made a character who could instantaneously attack someone across a huge range, no targeting (even Prof X needs to find someone first lol)..

And you rely on a low showing, lol. Considering Invisible Woman is able to stalemate Danny Rand etc....I mean, shall I play the same game?


It's hard to rely on high feats, when no one's really referenced any. sad

I mean, I'd "like" to see this monster Vader for myself. Considering I've posted multiple scans over the years of my favorites, only for them to be ignored or lowballed, it would be nice to be on the other side for a change (I'd probably be more then fair about it, since we're not talking about Carver or Dragon Ball.)


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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
@DS85

Do you have that Rancor scan on hand, maybe?

Cd wanted to refute it.


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Something to note: the rancor was being controlled remotely:

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The Rancor had a plate reinforced thorax that was able to prevent an initial force-choke attempt from Vader. We have absolutely NO idea what that "plate" was comprised of, however, nor if it could have withstood another attempt. It's also ONE showing that does not outweigh all of Vader's other showings.

However, when feats like this exist:
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...I'm not even sure what argument can possibly be made for Sif. Vader could just disintegrate her with a gesture, ffs.


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Or not even a gesture...

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Remember in Empire Strikes Back, the AT-ATs were too durable to take down with the snowspeeders?

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But yeah, that one showing of a single attempt from Vader, against a specially prepped drone with no details, means everything....


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And if push comes to shove, he has a ridiculous fastball as well:

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Sif's neck is protected only on the outside (if she remembers to wear her full armor... other times it's just exposed) and she doesn't benefit from the alien physiology.


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She's Asgardian right? So a bit more durable than normal humans, but that's it. Wasn't Taskmaster soloing shit loads of them lol.


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I'm going to make a guess Vader is considered op because:

Force storms or some equivalent.

Something to do with star fighters.

Something to do with pulling warships out of the sky.

Something something Force choke something something.




Never mind the fact Luke Cage overpowered the jaw of a kaiju MUCH larger then an armored rancor (Thing looked like a mountain to me), or that plenty of characters have planet wide ranging feats, and still aren't stomping heralds left and right..

Hell, my boy Iron Fist has a few good feats up there with Doctor Strange fighting Dormmamu. Full on soul reaping, universe ending cosmic beings getting Fisted.
your bias and overall lack of understanding are showing.

1. Casually lifting two AT-ATs is a multi ton feat. Casually stopping the movements of an AT-St is a multi ton feat. Casually ragdolling someone that could direct the fall of a star destroyer is a multi ton feat. Using tk to tank a weapon facility going nuclear is a muti ton feat.

2. He was explicitly said to be close to the level of someone that could choke people from half a galaxy away, break into alternate dimensions using only his skill, and could literally tear the very fabric of time and space itself apart.

3. Where does physical strwngth even matter? It's not like Luke or Danny or anyone else can flex their heart when it's being crushed. Even one of the most durable characters in comics (superman) has had parts of his brain successfully crushed by tk.

The fact that you try to hand wave away feats like this is really telling.


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She's Asgardian right? So a bit more durable than normal humans, but that's it. Wasn't Taskmaster soloing shit loads of them lol.


Taskmaster actually fought Fandral and Hogun and was in a good enough shape to face Steve (who quickly retreated) and Bucky afterwards.

Bullseye and Daken raped a lot of them, too.

Poor Mister X was happy with just one kill sad


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