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You're insane if you think DD hit's harder than Cap.


That's not what I said.....


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That's not what I said.....

That's exactly what you said...

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Depends on the fight there are fighst were he gets a lot of hits in.



Yea but he's not as skilled as DD and he isn't as hard to hit as DD. Yea I know DD doesn't actually have superhuman speed or agility but I would say that his radar sense and training make him harder to hit than Cap. When it comes to pure dodging he's almost as agile as Spiderman.

Frank has good showings against Deadpool and Alyosha Kravinoff who has superhuman speed and strength and martial art training. I would say Alyosha Kravinoff looks more dangerous than Beast and has beaten Black Panther in h2h.


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darthgoober can't read.


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Darth I said that DD is harder to hit than Cap...not that he hits harder than Cap. You joking with me?


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darthgoober can't read.


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Darth I said that DD is harder to hit than Cap...not that he hits harder than Cap. You joking with me?


Wow, just realized I reversed the words in my head lol. My bad dl


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^np.


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Anyway, I wouldn't say that he's necessarily harder to hit. Cap doesn't do the ultra evasion thing as often as Matt, but I think that's mostly because he's got the shield to defend him. But when he's without it, he can still be crazy hard to hit even though he doesn't do the showy acrobatic thing most of the time. Ironfist himself noticed that he's super effective at dodging with minimal movement. Cap's someone that even Spidey can have a really tough time landing hits against, just like DD. Hell one villain compared Cap's combat speed to old school(and I mean really old school) Quicksilver's, only moments after fighting Quicksilver lol


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You need to read more Wolverine.

The only time Beast did good was when he went feral and Wolverine was devolved to his kid state --- and guess how it went? A single stab made Beast flee and Logan regenerated with ease.

That's not my words. That's Wolverine's words and Beast didn't question them.


Lol... he did well here. Ended in a stalemate with Beast on top.

https://static.comicvine.com/upload...n-03-pg-013.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/upload...n-03-pg-014.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/upload...n-03-pg-015.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/upload...n-03-pg-016.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/upload...n-03-pg-017.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/upload...n-03-pg-018.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/upload...n-03-pg-019.jpg

He also did well here until Wolverine went Berserk...

https://static.comicvine.com/upload...rine_162_14.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/upload...rine_162_15.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/upload...rine_162_16.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/upload...rine_162_17.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/upload...rine_162_18.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/upload...rine_162_19.jpg

Also, let's not forget about Beast fight against Kraven where he outright stomps him to the point of Kraven trying to run and retreat and having to be saved by the Xmen.

Sabertooth have one of the best healing factors in all of comics. I doubt he wasnt at 100% when he fought Beast.


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I dont know why people dont mention Beast stomping Frenzy...

https://m.imgur.com/a/XcDkx

Or him taking out Danger. The same being who ruined a group of Xmen...

https://m.imgur.com/a/W2vMG


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Here is the Kraven fight just in case anyone is interested...

https://m.imgur.com/a/0HTJP


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Lol... he did well here. Ended in a stalemate with Beast on top.

https://static.comicvine.com/upload...n-03-pg-013.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/upload...n-03-pg-014.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/upload...n-03-pg-015.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/upload...n-03-pg-016.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/upload...n-03-pg-017.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/upload...n-03-pg-018.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/upload...n-03-pg-019.jpg

He also did well here until Wolverine went Berserk...

https://static.comicvine.com/upload...rine_162_14.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/upload...rine_162_15.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/upload...rine_162_16.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/upload...rine_162_17.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/upload...rine_162_18.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/upload...rine_162_19.jpg

Also, let's not forget about Beast fight against Kraven where he outright stomps him to the point of Kraven trying to run and retreat and having to be saved by the Xmen.

Sabertooth have one of the best healing factors in all of comics. I doubt he wasnt at 100% when he fought Beast.


1) Wolverine ended pinned, but with claws at Hank's face and another arm ready to slice his throat, if needed.

2) A glancing shot almost killed Hank, wow.

3) Read The Best There Is, then come back.


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1) Wolverine ended pinned, but with claws at Hank's face and another arm ready to slice his throat, if needed.

2) A glancing shot almost killed Hank, wow.

3) Read The Best There Is, then come back.


The first fight was a stalemate obvious with both ready to end it.

Wolverine outright tells us in the scan that Hank was playing possum. He got up smiling still in peak condition.

I did read Wolverine the best there is, lol and I'm not going to answer any of your crazy questions about the comic. Just know that I did. Anything else about this book will get unanswered.


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The first fight was a stalemate obvious with both ready to end it.


Beast had no way to end it.

Unless you think he could tax Logan's hf in one attack, somehow avoiding getting stabbed in the skull and getting beheaded...

Which Logan would never do, as he was toying with Beast there. And he could tank & heal from Beast's best attacks, if Hank was lucky to land them (which he wasn't).

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Wolverine outright tells us in the scan that Hank was playing possum. He got up smiling still in peak condition.


Beast recovered from a glancing blow -- Logan was afraid he ended him, accidentally.

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I did read Wolverine the best there is, lol and I'm not going to answer any of your crazy questions about the comic. Just know that I did. Anything else about this book will get unanswered.


No, you didn't.

Otherwise you'd know what I was talking about.


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Beast had no way to end it.

Unless you think he could tax Logan's hf in one attack, somehow avoiding getting stabbed in the skull and getting beheaded...

Which Logan would never do, as he was toying with Beast there. And he could tank & heal from Beast's best attacks, if Hank was lucky to land them (which he wasn't).



Beast recovered from a glancing blow -- Logan was afraid he ended him, accidentally.



No, you didn't.

Otherwise you'd know what I was talking about.


Of course you'll say he was toying with Beast. I'll leave you with your opinion on that bro.

You said the attack almost killed Hank when it didnt. Wolverine tells us he was playing possum. Dont care about Logan being afraid of ending him or not. My point was, the attack did nothing since Beast got up as if nothing happened and Wolverine outright tells us Beast wasnt affected by the attack. smile

As stated above, you can believe I didnt read it. I'm not here to convince you. Enjoy YOUR opinion. Any other comments about this will be completely ignored.

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Of course you'll say he was toying with Beast. I'll leave you with your opinion on that bro.


Did you read the comic?

You know the context, right?

And you know Wolverine was perfectly calm holding both sets of claws at Hank's face and neck, hmmm?

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You said the attack almost killed Hank when it didnt. Wolverine tells us he was playing possum. Dont care about Logan being afraid of ending him or not. My point was, the attack did nothing since Beast got up as if nothing happened and Wolverine outright tells us Beast wasnt affected by the attack. smile


Wolverine went berserker for one moment. One swipe could've ended him.

Yeah, an inch or so and your Beast would've been in a morgue. Those are the same claws that go through your Hulk as if he was made out of rice paper.

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As stated above, you can believe I didnt read it. I'm not here to convince you. Enjoy YOUR opinion. Any other comments about this will be completely ignored.

smile


I know you didn't read it, simple as that.

Just as I know you never read Whedon's Astonishing or Wolverine v3 thumb up


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Yep, this conversation is over. It's always the same. Carver, you didnt read the comic. Yes I did Stilt. No you didnt Carver. Yep, I did. Waste of energy. You won.

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Punisher has outraced lightning.

But I am in an uncommonly rare good mood today, on this, the birth of my daughter.


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Amazing. You just received a blessing. Congratulations man.


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Congratulations, Saint thumb up

She will outdebate carver at the age of 2, I'm sure.


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