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I still don't even get how muslims are a race or how the travel ban is racist. Since no the excuse of "most muslims are of a certain race" doesn't fly in determining that's racist. Not unless Trump said "Well white muslims from those countries can come here".

And if he did? Link me to it, thanks in advance to whoever does!


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Oh and also someone needs to explain why Obama isn't racist too since the countries Trump banned were taken straight from a list made by Obama's admin. Thanks in advance and no "Trumps comments about muslims are why" isn't enough.


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I don't doubt he's uttered some of this stuff before, but people need to go with...the stuff he uttered. Not "well an ex employee said it". That's garbage lol.

What percentage of americans in this country do you think can truly say they never once uttered something racist or bigoted?



Wouldn't say it was garbage, it's just that it could quite easily be a lie.

17%. In all seriousness though, shouldn't we hold our world leaders to a higher standard than we might Billy-Bob the truck driver?


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Oh and also someone needs to explain why Obama isn't racist too since the countries Trump banned were taken straight from a list made by Obama's admin. Thanks in advance and no "Trumps comments about muslims are why" isn't enough.


Beat me to it.


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Wouldn't say it was garbage, it's just that it could quite easily be a lie.

17%. In all seriousness though, shouldn't we hold our world leaders to a higher standard than we might Billy-Bob the truck driver?


Not an impossible standard. I suspect almost everybody has said something racist at least once in their lifetime.


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Not an impossible standard. I suspect almost everybody has said something racist at least once in their lifetime.
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Wouldn't say it was garbage, it's just that it could quite easily be a lie.

17%. In all seriousness though, shouldn't we hold our world leaders to a higher standard than we might Billy-Bob the truck driver?


It's garbage for a newspaper to print it IMO.

Sure, hold leaders to a higher standard. Yet just cuz someone has a more important job than the average citizen does not mean it's okay to whine over their behavior and yet behave the same way.

"Don't cry about racism and bigotry if you can't practice what you preach" should not be some controversial notion.


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It's garbage for a newspaper to print it IMO.

Sure, hold leaders to a higher standard. Yet just cuz someone has a more important job than the average citizen does not mean it's okay to whine over their behavior and yet behave the same way.

"Don't cry about racism and bigotry if you can't practice what you preach" should not be some controversial notion.
You are saying it is garbage for them to print it when Trump rambles off countless lies on his twitter feed.


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Oh and also someone needs to explain why Obama isn't racist too since the countries Trump banned were taken straight from a list made by Obama's admin. Thanks in advance and no "Trumps comments about muslims are why" isn't enough.


Let's fact check this:

7 Nations Identified Under Obama

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Prompted by concerns about terrorism, the Obama administration did put those seven countries -- Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Yemen -- on a list that makes travel into the United States somewhat more difficult.


That was fun.

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Yet just cuz someone has a more important job than the average citizen does not mean it's okay to whine over their behavior and yet behave the same way.


I understand what you're saying but we're not talking about bank managers here, it's the POTUS.


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I still don't even get how muslims are a race or how the travel ban is racist.


Me either but that's how people like Trump think. He wanted a Muslim ban, remember? But he forgot that there are hundreds of millions of Muslims that are not Arab. smile


And Arab isn't a race, either.


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People get angry and they say stupid things. Everybody does that, saying a racist statement is a stupid statement.


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Let's fact check this:

7 Nations Identified Under Obama



That was fun.


Bingo, and now he's racist.


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There are a lot of Persian Muslims too.


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Me either but that's how people like Trump think. He wanted a Muslim ban, remember? But he forgot that there are hundreds of millions of Muslims that are not Arab. smile


And Arab isn't a race, either.


He wanted a muslim ban, not a "only colored muslims" ban. So...failing to see the racism.


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Oh and also someone needs to explain why Obama isn't racist too since the countries Trump banned were taken straight from a list made by Obama's admin. Thanks in advance and no "Trumps comments about muslims are why" isn't enough.


"All Muslims" isn't the same as 7 countries, though. I've already made this defense for you. And I did it very well.


Trump lost all credibility when he said "all Muslims" though. Then my defense went out the window and I had to concede that it was just Trump being a racist shithead again.


Didja forget this argument? Robtard and co. argued with me for pages, remember?


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Me either but that's how people like Trump think.


You keep stating that without proof.


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People get angry and they say stupid things. Everybody does that, saying a racist statement is a stupid statement.
Trump does this all the time but you excuse him. Telling.


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I understand what you're saying but we're not talking about bank managers here, it's the POTUS.


Why should the fact he's president mean grown adults should not practice what they preach?


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Bingo, and now he's racist.


Just because Obama had this list previously doesn't recuse Trump from being racist, just that this particular piece was set up by the previous administration.

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