planet-draining is clearly many leagues above starkiller who struggled to blow up a frigate, tenebrous as a sith near the end of banite line may have a chance but is unproven, plagueis may be more powerful but might not survive his drain, then the sidious versions are stronger without doubt but no clear limit to nihilus's drain power. sidious by rotj through byss feat, lusankya and force storms is clearly way beyond nihilus and should win
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Why are you trying to re-start this versus thread all over again? You perfectly know that there are members who believe he takes all and there will be those who say he does not pass beyond 3-4.
It is a very unhealthy versus.
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Except for the fact that:
1. You have already threaded a post with Darth Nihilus
2. Disagreements here often end in mockery
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Sidious' three so-called "invincible" performances can be easily discounted.
1. He drained the populace with his Dark Side adepts for decades. The inhabitants offered no resistance; they were also kept in a docile-like state by Palpatine and his Dark Adepts' experiments.
2. The Lusankya performance is much more ambiguous than Nihilus'. There is an in-universe source which states Palpatine had his men to bury it. And a out-perspective source which states he did it. Therefore we can safely come to the following premise:
-we do not know how long it took
-Palpatine moved the Lusankya with his men's help
3. Force storms are generated by wielding Dark Side nexi's energies(example: Byss, Eclipse)
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And if it was Vitiate's current incarnation instead of Nihilus?
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More likely how Nihilus would lose?
Because in Knights of the Old Republic 2 video-game you had to be a Wound in The Force and for him to be starved.
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Based on what? RotS Sidious is canonically the most powerful Sith in history, and if you want to argue that Nihilus gigadrains, why doesn't Plagueis just midichlorian kill?
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There are plenty of sources that say Palpatine himself dominated drained all of the inhabitants, so whether the adepts also participated or not, the evidence suggests they were not a primary or necessary component of the activity. And the fact that he does it 24/7 over decades is the point.
Well, I'd favor the out of universe sources over the non-Force sensitive historian. In either case, at the very least he was TP'ing millions (or more) in real-time.
The longer it took, the longer Palpatine would have to TP potential witnesses.
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Not necessarily. That's the interpretation of a NR historian.
The Eclipse's nexus was clearly Palpatine, unless if DE Sidious by himself made the Eclipse a nexus more powerful than even Byss in a minimum span of time, which would be pretty OP unto itself. And it's pretty clearly stated that Sidious can create Force storms on his own power; no evidence suggests that a nexus is necessary.
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looking at all the sources it's clear Palpatine was the main factor IMHO, it's not like he needed the help of fodder adepts, they were just along for the ride
if he can casually drain them from across the galaxy with zero effort, he could prob just try harder and kill them outright, or TP them to death
he still would have to TP billions of people at the least given Coruscant's population
both byss and eclipse were nexuses because of Palpatine, and he doesn't need them to do force storms, as shown in sourcebooks and the end of RotJ
sidious has more power than nihilus and is obviously far greater in mastery, knowledge and intelligence, only chance for nihilus is if his drain is infinite in power, but imho that's nonsense
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