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carver9
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Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
thats stupid.

superman preformed the feat. just superman.

saying crap like "well so and so could have also done the feat if they were amped" is just arbitrary bullshit. makes you sound even more butthurt about what superman did honestly.


It's sad that I have to do this. A Superman that was near death see hundreds of suns in front of him. Near depleted he dives into the first sun. Not only did this one dive put him at his normal power level, it took him far above it.

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41...ternet.jpg.html

Superman states he needs more and dives into every sun that is in front of him. We see 5 but the scene is cut but looking at the scan, he dove in each one of the suns that was directly in front of him so it's safe to say that this trends continued...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41...ternet.jpg.html

The key thing about this is, the first sun took him completely over his power levels and he admitted that he needed more and started diving in all of them. Lol... again, the first sun tremendously amped him and he have 10s to hundreds of more in front of him. The next time we see Superman he is flying towards a ship heading to earth...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41...ternet.jpg.html

If you dont think he was amplified tremendously, I dont know what to tell you.


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No one said that Superman wasn't amped, carver. He definitely was(though assuming he flew through more suns than what we were shown on-panel is just a baseless asspull.)

But the 'logic' you're trying to use here to diminish the feat is asinine. You're basically saying: "Pffft... Anyone could have matched that feat if they were amped enough, so it's not that impressive."

Seems so desperate that it's almost funny, tbh.


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It's sad that I have to do this. A Superman that was near death see hundreds of suns in front of him. Near depleted he dives into the first sun. Not only did this one dive put him at his normal power level, it took him far above it.

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41...ternet.jpg.html

Superman states he needs more and dives into every sun that is in front of him. We see 5 but the scene is cut but looking at the scan, he dove in each one of the suns that was directly in front of him so it's safe to say that this trends continued...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41...ternet.jpg.html

The key thing about this is, the first sun took him completely over his power levels and he admitted that he needed more and started diving in all of them. Lol... again, the first sun tremendously amped him and he have 10s to hundreds of more in front of him. The next time we see Superman he is flying towards a ship heading to earth...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41...ternet.jpg.html

If you dont think he was amplified tremendously, I dont know what to tell you.
how much time did he spend in each sun going 1000's of times FTL? He took a swim in the first sun to recharge the rest he was in them for maybe a second or 2.

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Originally posted by Galan007
No one said that Superman wasn't amped, carver. He definitely was(though assuming he flew through more suns than what we were shown on-panel is just a baseless asspull.)

But the 'logic' you're trying to use here to diminish the feat is asinine. You're basically saying: "Pffft... Anyone could have matched that feat if they were amped enough, so it's not that impressive."

Seems so desperate that it's almost funny, tbh.


where would you put superman at base? planetary, star level, galaxy level. etc?

just wondering

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If Superman were so easy to lock-down to one particular tier, I don't think he would divide the masses nearly as much as he has.

Personally, I am of the opinion that his 'base' is... Very dynamic, to say the least.


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If Superman were so easy to lock-down to one particular tier, I don't think he would divide the masses nearly as much as he has.

Personally, I am of the opinion that his 'base' is... Very dynamic, to say the least.


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He's so dynamic that Superman is one of the few, if not the only A-list character that can be adjusted to fit the plot without completely ****ing him over.


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So I'm guessing Superman doesn't really have a "set" level?

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Superman is as strong as he needs to be. thumb up


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Hence the temp ban. Ppl were saying it’s JUST cuz he’s “too powerful” but really it’s just that he’s way too inconsistent, and given that recent ban-triggering feat, the mods want to see where he’s gonna be at NOW based on the current story before considering him to be fair game again....

Right? I don’t know. My reading comprehension fails me sometimes. I’m a 30-y-o fanboy of a teen amalgam that only exists on 6(ish) non-canon panels.

I’m much more interested in discussing other “ownage.” Like remember when Spider-man was beat tf down by the Raft breakout in the early New Avengers books? Has Wolverine ever been beaten down that bad, or does Marvel have a strict policy to never allow the publishing of something like that to happen, out of fear of fan backlash? Bane broke Bats for chrissake!! Wtf!

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Originally posted by Galan007
No one said that Superman wasn't amped, carver. He definitely was(though assuming he flew through more suns than what we were shown on-panel is just a baseless asspull.)

But the 'logic' you're trying to use here to diminish the feat is asinine. You're basically saying: "Pffft... Anyone could have matched that feat if they were amped enough, so it's not that impressive."

Seems so desperate that it's almost funny, tbh.


Nope, never said that.


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how much time did he spend in each sun going 1000's of times FTL? He took a swim in the first sun to recharge the rest he was in them for maybe a second or 2.


Honestly, how do you know how long he was in them and the first sun, he dived in just as quick as the others and it took him far above his average power level. Its unquantifiable.


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Superman's feats will just continue to get the oppositions blood boiling no matter what happens.

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I see that the goalpost has moved.

1. World Forger is not multiversal (We past this)
2. It wasn't a multiverse that got destroyed, only a continent (We past this as well)
3. Superman was amped, we will never know how much


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1. Mxy Amped Superman
2. The multiverse wasn't destroyed
3. Some stupid shit about the anvil not being durable..
4. Superman was in the sixth dimension
5. Can't be used in forum setting so lets pretend it never happened.


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Honestly, how do you know how long he was in them and the first sun, he dived in just as quick as the others and it took him far above his average power level. Its unquantifiable.
I think we can easily quantify the amount of time he spent in each sun. There were 5 that we know of.
If he's traveling thousands of times faster than light how long will it take him to fly through one? 1/10000 of a second? These are yellow suns and not red giants so they should be about the size of our sun.
If he flew through 10000 suns he'd only spent one second in the suns after the first one. I don't think it was the sun amp it's superman doing superman things. Like the guy that jumped off WF'S planet when he had to but could not earlier at higher levels of power.

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Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
never really watched star trek but are all Q equal power or are there stronger and weaker Q?

if so do we know who the most powerful Q is?



All Q seem to be equal. Or, if there is a hierarchy, we're never told it.


Star Trek Voyager had a full on Q war, with the crew using Q killing guns (Q tech). Not one mention of power hierarchies, even then.


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Originally posted by xJLxKing
I see that the goalpost has moved.

1. World Forger is not multiversal (We past this)
2. It wasn't a multiverse that got destroyed, only a continent (We past this as well)
3. Superman was amped, we will never know how much


Honorable mentions
1. Mxy Amped Superman
2. The multiverse wasn't destroyed
3. Some stupid shit about the anvil not being durable..
4. Superman was in the sixth dimension
5. Can't be used in forum setting so lets pretend it never happened.



Who says WF isn't? He created Barbatos, who literally eats universes like they're candy.


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Originally posted by NemeBro
Superman is as strong as he needs to be. thumb up



You kid, but he never needed an amp to fight Darkseid, who in turn matched Anti-Monitor = World Forger.


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Who says WF isn't? He created Barbatos, who literally eats universes like they're candy.

Plenty lol

It was hilarious people trying to downplay WF.

I recall one instance where someone said something "he can't be multiversal, he was knocked out my Superman"


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I think we can easily quantify the amount of time he spent in each sun. There were 5 that we know of.
If he's traveling thousands of times faster than light how long will it take him to fly through one? 1/10000 of a second? These are yellow suns and not red giants so they should be about the size of our sun.
If he flew through 10000 suns he'd only spent one second in the suns after the first one. I don't think it was the sun amp it's superman doing superman things. Like the guy that jumped off WF'S planet when he had to but could not earlier at higher levels of power.


This doesnt make one bit of sense. The first sun he flew through amped him significantly. If there was no need of jumping in anymore suns, why do it. They obviously amped him. We have no clue on how many suns he jumped into because the scene went somewhere else while he was sun dipping. Just stop man. He states the first sun amplified him and then he tells us he wants more. This sentence alone is common sense. He was amped to unknown levels.


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Originally posted by xJLxKing
I see that the goalpost has moved.

1. World Forger is not multiversal (We past this)
2. It wasn't a multiverse that got destroyed, only a continent (We past this as well)
3. Superman was amped, we will never know how much


Honorable mentions
1. Mxy Amped Superman
2. The multiverse wasn't destroyed
3. Some stupid shit about the anvil not being durable..
4. Superman was in the sixth dimension
5. Can't be used in forum setting so lets pretend it never happened.


1, 2, and 3, I dont think some of the people that debated that changed their mind.


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