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Parmaniac
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Originally posted by Galan007
Also, now that Infinity Ending is pirateable, I'm curious what you guys thought about it...
Did you just assume we're a bunch of criminals?


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Sin I AM
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Originally posted by Galan007
Also, now that Infinity Ending is pirateable, I'm curious what you guys thought about it...
unnecessary. It felt forced and lame


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Originally posted by Galan007
Also, now that Infinity Ending is pirateable, I'm curious what you guys thought about it...

Unsatisfying. The previous book provided a a lot of exposition for previously unexplored territory with the Above-All-Others having withheld the limits of his power even for the Living Tribunal, while simultaneously having Thanos accumulate all the power in the Multiverse. This works because it raises an interesting question, "is there enough power in creation to overthrow the creator?"

But this book opened up with Thanos challenging the Above-All-Others. Something that should've been saved until the midpoint of the book. This would allowed for further exploration of the cosmos, as well as allowing the heroes to take proactive measures against Thanos—and perhaps even interact with Thanos prior to him attaining supremacy. Instead we get a dragged out cosmic goose chase which only results temporal paradox—something that shouldn't affect God—that confuses Future Thanos during a critical moment so that Present Thanos is able to redirect Future Thanos' power.

This is how I would've done the book:

Present Thanos and Future Thanos are now one, and they condition the Thanoses across the Multiverse to go through the same process absorbing all the Abstracts across all Universes and uniting with Future Thanos. The heroes come across Thanos during this time, where Adam Warlock incites doubt into Present Thanos, which is the reason he chooses to keep himself from melding together with Future Thanos' madness. The team manages to escape Thanos' wrath and ends up with the Above-All-Others, who frees the heroes from predestination so that he—and later Thanos—won't be able to foresee their actions. When Thanos finally absorbs the Above-All-Others he realizes that his omniscience is flawed—because he can't see the heroes—so before destroying everything he decides to hunt them down, just in case there's a countermeasure in place. Future Thanos goes mad from the hunt and decides to end everything despite the possible risks, but the composite Thanoses disagrees with this and turn against Future Thanos, giving Present Thanos the opportunity to take control and revert everything back to normal.

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Galan007
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Did you just assume we're a bunch of criminals?
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unnecessary. It felt forced and lame
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Originally posted by Astner
Unsatisfying. The previous book provided a a lot of exposition for previously unexplored territory with the Above-All-Others having withheld the limits of his power even for the Living Tribunal, while simultaneously having Thanos accumulate all the power in the Multiverse. This works because it raises an interesting question, "is there enough power in creation to overthrow the creator?"

But this book opened up with Thanos challenging the Above-All-Others. Something that should've been saved until the midpoint of the book. This would allowed for further exploration of the cosmos, as well as allowing the heroes to take proactive measures against Thanos—and perhaps even interact with Thanos prior to him attaining supremacy. Instead we get a dragged out cosmic goose chase which only results temporal paradox—something that shouldn't affect God—that confuses Future Thanos during a critical moment so that Present Thanos is able to redirect Future Thanos' power.

This is how I would've done the book:

Present Thanos and Future Thanos are now one, and they condition the Thanoses across the Multiverse to go through the same process absorbing all the Abstracts across all Universes and uniting with Future Thanos. The heroes come across Thanos during this time, where Adam Warlock incites doubt into Present Thanos, which is the reason he chooses to keep himself from melding together with Future Thanos' madness. The team manages to escape Thanos' wrath and ends up with the Above-All-Others, who frees the heroes from predestination so that he—and later Thanos—won't be able to foresee their actions. When Thanos finally absorbs the Above-All-Others he realizes that his omniscience is flawed—because he can't see the heroes—so before destroying everything he decides to hunt them down, just in case there's a countermeasure in place. Future Thanos goes mad from the hunt and decides to end everything despite the possible risks, but the composite Thanoses disagrees with this and turn against Future Thanos, giving Present Thanos the opportunity to take control and revert everything back to normal.
Agree 100%.


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Jfc.

I just realized that this thread is already a year old... Time flies.


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Shit, you're right.


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A year of good natured discussion and knowledge dissemination


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It honestly hasn't been as bad as I thought it would be. Several legitimately good discussions have happened here.

And at least some of the stupidity has stayed confined to this thread, and hasn't bled all over the forum like it would have otherwise.

All in all, I'm pretty happy with this little experiment. thumb up


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Jfc.

I just realized that this thread is already a year old... Time flies.

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Thank u Carvster. A true genius ahead of the times.


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A year of good natured discussion and knowledge dissemination


laughing out loud


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Thank u Carvster. A true genius ahead of the times.
He's a true visionary. thumb up


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You've been serving Mr. Nine well.

You are Bib Fortuna to Carver's Jabba, Galan thumb up


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LordGod
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So regarding DDC- were all of these universes created to preserve the legacy of Superman, still made by WF?


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I took it as an inner-function of the Metaverse itself. It will always preserve the eras/incarnations of Superman, etc.


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The metaverse is the universe or the multiverse?

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The metaverse is the universe or the multiverse?
The DCU

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LordGod
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Another question that's been bothering me-

Why couldn't Manhattan see anything after the punch Superman threw towards him? If everything is preordained then that's the way it was always going to end, so he should have been able to see how things turned out from the beginning right? confused


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The metaverse is the universe or the multiverse?


It's the main universe


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