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Canada's Nice. Unless you Drink.

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People wanted tough on crime, now they're getting it even if there's no crime.


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Lol f*ck Canada. What a shithole.


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I have mixed feelings about this.

I was just talking to a buddy of mine about things that most people anywhere would generally agree are bad, and we agreed that drunk driving would be one of them. Yet, even people who would agree that drunk driving is a bad thing may be guilty of doing so. It's definitely a culturally acceptable thing here in the U.S. to have a few drinks and drive somewhere else afterward, rather than get a cab in lieu of a sober designated driver.

I definitely support Canada's crack down on drunk drivers, but requesting breath samples at home after an accusation of guilt is where it gets messy. Unless the accused BAC is substantially higher than could be reasonably attained after the report of drunk driving was made, there is no way to prove this person didn't have a few drinks at home after the fact. I suppose they could show the bottles and glasses to the police, but again, that would not be enough to prove they weren't intoxicated beforehand.


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I have mixed feelings about this.

I was just talking to a buddy of mine about things that most people anywhere would generally agree are bad, and we agreed that drunk driving would be one of them. Yet, even people who would agree that drunk driving is a bad thing may be guilty of doing so. It's definitely a culturally acceptable thing here in the U.S. to have a few drinks and drive somewhere else afterward, rather than get a cab in lieu of a sober designated driver.

I definitely support Canada's crack down on drunk drivers, but requesting breath samples at home after an accusation of guilt is where it gets messy. Unless the accused BAC is substantially higher than could be reasonably attained after the report of drunk driving was made, there is no way to prove this person didn't have a few drinks at home after the fact. I suppose they could show the bottles and glasses to the police, but again, that would not be enough to prove they weren't intoxicated beforehand.


They shouldn't be going to bars and making these requests either.

The tactic they are talking about using isn't really going to prevent many people from driving drunk.


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They shouldn't be going to bars and making these requests either.

The tactic they are talking about using isn't really going to prevent many people from driving drunk.


No, they're hoping the fear of being arrested will act as the deterrent to others.

Breathalyzers becoming standard in cars might help the problem. A car won't start for a lone intoxicated driver, and he or she would be forced to call family, friends, or a cab to be picked up, or spend a night in the drunk tank...could force loved ones to confront them about their drinking. Increased penalties for sober passengers who bypassed the breath sample for an intoxicated driver should also be implemented with such a program.

There would be plenty of what-ifs, but generally speaking, it could reduce the amount of drunk drivers on the road each year.


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So you can now be Too Drunk to Operate your Place of Residence?

Yep. Welcome to Socialism!!!!!


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No, they're hoping the fear of being arrested will act as the deterrent to others.

Breathalyzers becoming standard in cars might help the problem. A car won't start for a lone intoxicated driver, and he or she would be forced to call a family, friends, or a cab to be picked up, or spend a night in the drunk tank...could force loved ones to confront them about their drinking. Increased penalties for sober passengers who bypassed the breath sample for an intoxicated driver should also be implemented with such a program.

There would be plenty of what-ifs, but generally speaking, it could reduce the amount of drunk drivers on the road each year.


I don't know why they already haven't made it a law to have breathalyzers in cars. Every new car made should be forced to have them and people who already own cars that lack them should be given 6 months or so to have one installed.


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I don't know why they already haven't made it a law to have breathalyzers in cars. Every new car made should be forced to have them and people who already own cars that lack them should be given 6 months or so to have one installed.


That's ridiculous. Should someone who has a 5, 10, 20+ year old car be forced to upgrade their car to current 2019 safety standards?

No, I don't drink alcohol, before you jet off on that angle.


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That's ridiculous. Should someone who has a 5, 10, 20+ year old car be forced to upgrade their car to current 2019 safety standards?


Sort of. There should be some sort of car-buyback program to reduce car homicides.


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