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"Malachor was a DS nexus" debunked by Matt Martin?
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TheIndyJedi
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"Malachor was a DS nexus" debunked by Matt Martin?

After years of Kbroskywalker/Rockydonovang trying to hype Ahsoka up by claiming her showings against Vader and Maul were impressive as they were both "amped" by a darkside nexus without no real evidence , somebody finally tweeted to Matt Martin about his stance on nexuses in canon.

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ayy lmao

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They don't even know what a nexus is, don't know why'd ask that, lmao.


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Good it's been confirmed that nothing more than conjecture supported it.


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Yup

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Tbf, he didn't formally 'debunk' anything there.


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He debunked that anythings factual regarding combat advantages on a Canon Nexus specific to Sith or Jedi.

The source used as evidence from the Ahsoka camp was Henry Gilroy. Yet even he was clearly unsure, and stated to clarify from Filoni. And even he only applied to the flight abilities.

Most importantly he clarified ideas in Filoni/Gilroys minds are not canon until specifically made canon.


All we need now is for someone to ask Matt if Maul flailed backwards against Ahsoka due to her clear superiority, And watch him reply: ???

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Good it's been confirmed that nothing more than conjecture supported it.


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He debunked that anythings factual regarding combat advantages on a Canon Nexus specific to Sith or Jedi.

The source used as evidence from the Ahsoka camp was Henry Gilroy. Yet even he was clearly unsure, and stated to clarify from Filoni. And even he only applied to the flight abilities.

Most importantly he clarified ideas in Filoni/Gilroys minds are not canon until specifically made canon.


All we need now is for someone to ask Matt if Maul flailed backwards against Ahsoka due to her clear superiority, And watch him reply: ???
Nothing in his tweet was stated as incontrovertible fact, though. Hence: "I wasn't in the room for those discussions so I can't speak to it."


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Nothing in his tweet was stated as incontrovertible fact, though. Hence: "I wasn't in the room for those discussions so I can't speak to it."



Yes but hes also basically saying, that even if he was there, ideas like that being tossed around are not canon. And that it hasnt made it into any official source as far as hes aware.

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Not "necessarily" truth were his exact words.

Again, nothing in that tweet formally debunks anything. Dude outright says that he wasn't present for the discussions, so he can't speak to the implications one way or the other.


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So we’re still asking these guys questions why now? Neither them or authors ever seem to give clear cut answers.


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So we’re still asking these guys questions why now? Neither them or authors ever seem to give clear cut answers.



Because if they dont know themselves, and its not stated in a canon source anywhere, then how can it be canon lol

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It's just a cluster**** to be honest. Chee seems to think author statements and opinions hold canonical weight, whereas the vast majority of authors I've seen comment on things (including Martin, Boyd and Karpyshyn) all think their opinions don't mean squat.


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Chee seems to think author statements and opinions hold canonical weight,



Wasnt that with the Old Canon? Now its all down to the story group I believe.

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Well point is, Rocky/Kbro can't overhype Ahsoka anymore as he doesn't have any definitive proof that she contended with Vader and Maul on a DS nexus

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Darth Thor
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^ He never did have any lol. But that never stopped him.

He still claims Ahsoka forced Maul back due to her superiority.

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Also frankly guys, I think there's way too much stock being put into these people's words when it comes to SW. Yeah, I get it these guys are authors of certain things/stories, but when they don't really give a clear answer then that should tell you something. SW seems to be the only one where I constantly see people bug the authors about every little thing.


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^ Hes not an author. Hes part of the story group.

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^ Hes not an author. Hes part of the story group.


Author/Story group, my point is the same.


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