Dont think you read my post. I admitted he was weakened but I said he was still extremely powerful... to the point where he was capable of fighting the Avengers solo.
My point is, it's complete PIS that he can fight the Avengers solo, based on his entire run where it's shown time and time again that he is weakened to the point that being able to see in the dark and float for 30 seconds is a major victory for him.
What about stopping time on an entire planet before it exploded (World Breaker Hulk) while putting him and Banner in astral form (removing banner clean from Hulks body). Let's not look directly at his lows. Looking at everything as a whole, he is a monster.
Monica has already phased through Hulk once before, so there is evidence she could render herself immune to his physical attacks. She actually would have reverted him back to Banner here, but extenuating circumstances stopped that. https://postimg.cc/gwYBq9pd https://postimg.cc/kVfYTjMS
She's also jumped inside She-Hulk as gamma energy, although she did it to power Jennifer up.
Not necessarily true. Comics often ignore easy routes to victory for the "sake" of story. I put that in quotes because a good writer shouldn't have to rely on a character just standing in the background to avoid addressing the obvious ace-in-the-hole. If you're going to make a team lose, there should be a plausible reason why it happened. That's part of what made Uncanny X-Force(under Remender) so great. Wolverine and Deadpool never had their healing factors neutered. Fantomex and Psylocke didn't stand around like idiots when a misdirect or tp assault would work. AoA Kurt would port your face off. Whenever they got countered, it was always a very plausible reason, like Dark Beast's tech.
None of their defeats ever ended with you going "Wait, why didn't so-and-so try doing this? Why did they just stand around?" You could feel their desperation because they were trying their hardest and failing, believably.
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i'm not sure she CAN beat him 100%, but i was more interested in HIM beating her. she should be able to drain off huge amounts of his energy, energy she could use to amp herself and i know she would be immune to nearly anything he could do. not to mention light speed.... i suppose she could hit him with planet-destroying force as well. turning into an uber laser and burning through his eyes and brain may be enough to get her a forum win too, or trying what she tried against thanos.
she would need to be a bit exotic or go 100% all out, but she has options here. all he has is a 'maybe' he could actively absorb her? thought there would be more for him. the absorption seems unlikely to me based on his old enemy x-ray never having had that done to him in any of their several meetings. x-ray was also able to command a type of energy in one meeting that totally turned him back to banner. i guess this could be a stalemate, but i'm leaning towards monica for a majority still. people need to be more creative.
In all fairness, Monica is a very hard character to argue against anyway. Every little tactic from a physical being or energy blasts has a counter from her showings.
He will heal past everything you said. Hulk was active while his body was in pieces as if it was nothing and reformed as soon as he felt the diar to do it. Rogue tried absorbing Hulk and it did nothing. An amped Creel tried it as well. Hulk was still fighting. I doubt these options are the deciding factor for her to win. We know Hulk can absorb energy now. I feel confident she gets absorbed here.
Lol... that says nothing about them not believing Hulk would've killed them or not. They clearly came there to stop him and 50/50 had different opinions about the kids vision. They gathered the team just in case Hulk did go berserk killing everyone. All I'm saying is, their mindset is completely different when they came for Hulk vs Sue. They approached Hulk in the thought of being ready to fight for their lives.
BRUCE a way out. They brought a stacked team just in case he Hulked out. I'm sure if he would've turned to Hulk when she said those words, the verbiage between then would've been completely different. Do you think she would've set there talking? She didnt bring the team for Banner, she brought it for Hulk.
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Jan 13th, 2019 08:58 PM
my timeline was messed up. 
