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Smash is a party game, gtfo with that competitive shit.


Smash being a party game is not an opinion though, it's a fact.


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Maybe three times the charm. This 'ought to be the mother of unpopular opinions:


Nobody really had a problem with women in gaming, and it only became an issue because someone decided to make it an issue. No one was stopping Anita Sarkeesian from making whatever she wants.

It's just when they started a "there's a problem with women in gaming culture" campaign to promote those stupid games, that people started talking about it in those terms.


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Maybe three times the charm. This 'ought to be the mother of unpopular opinions:


Nobody really had a problem with women in gaming, and it only became an issue because someone decided to make it an issue. No one was stopping Anita Sarkeesian from making whatever she wants.

It's just when they started a "there's a problem with women in gaming culture" campaign to promote those stupid games, that people started talking about it in those terms.


I wouldn't say it was nobody; but instead a small minority.

Women have been heavily involved in gaming for years, both as creators and as playable characters. As many as men? No, but how is that any different from any field that predominantly attracts men. Some of the all-time classic games have had women heavily involved in them.

You can't say there's no sexism in the industry (or any industry for that matter), but it's long been a case of, if you're good enough, you're in.

That's my 2c anyway.


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I think there sexism in the gaming industry. I don't think its as prevalent as used to be but it still exists. However, I don't think its specific to game development but rather the tech industry as a whole.

I also believe there is misogyny within the gaming culture. How big is it? I'm not sure but it does exist. The whole gamer gate thing wouldn't exist if that was the case.

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I think there sexism in the gaming industry. I don't think its as prevalent as used to be but it still exists. However, I don't think its specific to game development but rather the tech industry as a whole.

I also believe there is misogyny within the gaming culture. How big is it? I'm not sure but it does exist. The whole gamer gate thing wouldn't exist if that was the case.


Wasn't that originally about journalism ethics?

I won't say the misogyny argument was a deflection from that, but it's funny how there the focus seemed to shift away from ethics, to the point it simply wasn't part of the conversation.


Not that there NEEDS to be a conversation. I think even people in the industry would readily agree clickbait, score manipulation, and a dependance on the good will of content producers who you're supposed to be looking critically at, are parts of the "journalism" industry and have been forever.


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Well...I assume you are talking about game journalism and not the industry as a whole. I'm not sure and maybe I misinterpreted gamers gate.

But I would agree that there is a problem with woman in gaming. Or at least the tech industry in general.

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Unpopular opinion: Dead Space 3 wasn't that bad.


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I agree. I enjoyed it a lot when it came out.

After playing the second time, I was less enthralled but it was still a good game.

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Capital Ships should never have "weak points", or be defeatable by a one man fighter/bomber.

Stripping down main guns is fine, but it should be left to your own capital ships to finish them off. Making them so weak any old super pilot in an experimental spacecraft could blow them up just devalues the awesomeness of capital ships.


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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.

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Unpopular opinion: Dead Space 3 wasn't that bad.
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Here's a very unpopular opinion:

A majority of reviews on sites like Metacritic are "fake", a.k.a. shills.

If over 90% of Amazon reviews are fake, what are the odds most of those user reviews are regular people? Some, maybe, but I doubt a lot.


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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.

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Here's another:

Definition of a children's game is a game that appeals to, and is played by children, right?

In this day and age, actual children's games are games like Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto, etc. Because those are the type of games that apeal to kids these days.
Go to any Gamestop and you'll see kids begging their mommies to buy them the new COD, Red Dead, etc.
Play those games online and what do you hear over the mics? Edgy kids screaming into the microphones.

The meme about having colorful graphics and cute characters means its a kids game doesn't really apply if the majority of "actual kids" are not the ones rushing out to play and buy these games instead of the new GTA.

That's like a new a type of Dog food hitting the market, and hardly any dogs will eat the food, and the majority of the sales come from cat owners. Cats seem to love that type of dog food brand.
Eventually can that be even called Dog food anymore?


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Here's a very unpopular opinion:

A majority of reviews on sites like Metacritic are "fake", a.k.a. shills.

If over 90% of Amazon reviews are fake, what are the odds most of those user reviews are regular people? Some, maybe, but I doubt a lot.


If you mean the user reviews on Metacritic, I 100% agree. Even if they aren't fake, many are alarmist and laughably exaggerated, giving a game a 1 out of 10 for the most meager of flaws. I ignore them completely.


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Here's another:

Definition of a children's game is a game that appeals to, and is played by children, right?

In this day and age, actual children's games are games like Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto, etc. Because those are the type of games that apeal to kids these days.
Go to any Gamestop and you'll see kids begging their mommies to buy them the new COD, Red Dead, etc.
Play those games online and what do you hear over the mics? Edgy kids screaming into the microphones.

The meme about having colorful graphics and cute characters means its a kids game doesn't really apply if the majority of "actual kids" are not the ones rushing out to play and buy these games instead of the new GTA.

That's like a new a type of Dog food hitting the market, and hardly any dogs will eat the food, and the majority of the sales come from cat owners. Cats seem to love that type of dog food brand.
Eventually can that be even called Dog food anymore?


That is messed up, Alot of those games aren't meant for kids....good to see parents actually giving a shit.


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Originally posted by Inhuman
Here's another:

Definition of a children's game is a game that appeals to, and is played by children, right?

In this day and age, actual children's games are games like Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto, etc. Because those are the type of games that apeal to kids these days.
Go to any Gamestop and you'll see kids begging their mommies to buy them the new COD, Red Dead, etc.
Play those games online and what do you hear over the mics? Edgy kids screaming into the microphones.

The meme about having colorful graphics and cute characters means its a kids game doesn't really apply if the majority of "actual kids" are not the ones rushing out to play and buy these games instead of the new GTA.

That's like a new a type of Dog food hitting the market, and hardly any dogs will eat the food, and the majority of the sales come from cat owners. Cats seem to love that type of dog food brand.
Eventually can that be even called Dog food anymore?

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It says something when older more mature people can enjoy "kiddy" Nintendo series or whathaveyou, and "more mature" series are often played by kids and mic squeakers online/offline.


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-Dragon Age 2 is a solid 8/10 game.


Amen to this. I played 2 before Origins, and while Origins is a 10/10 top ten games played contender IMO, 2 is a worthy follow-up.

It's a Ghostbusters to Ghostbusters II situation.


FFVIII is comparative in quality (and better in some areas, obviously graphics but I also argue music) to its older brother FFVII. VII captured the zeitgeist at the time of its release, but VIII is every bit its equal except in some plot-meandering and a weaker villain. VIII suffered from coming out hot-on-the-heels of the biggest JRPG of ever.

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Originally posted by Inhuman
Here's another:

Definition of a children's game is a game that appeals to, and is played by children, right?

In this day and age, actual children's games are games like Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto, etc. Because those are the type of games that apeal to kids these days.
Go to any Gamestop and you'll see kids begging their mommies to buy them the new COD, Red Dead, etc.
Play those games online and what do you hear over the mics? Edgy kids screaming into the microphones.

The meme about having colorful graphics and cute characters means its a kids game doesn't really apply if the majority of "actual kids" are not the ones rushing out to play and buy these games instead of the new GTA.

That's like a new a type of Dog food hitting the market, and hardly any dogs will eat the food, and the majority of the sales come from cat owners. Cats seem to love that type of dog food brand.
Eventually can that be even called Dog food anymore?
...Er... Minecraft?


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I'm not sure what his definition of kids. Under 10? Between 10-14?

And this isn't something new. Kids have been wanting to grow up by consuming mature content for 20-30 years. Kids wanted to play Doom when it was released instead of "kids" games. Kids have been wanting to watch rated R movies for decades. I wanted too!

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I'm not sure what his definition of kids. Under 10? Between 10-14?

And this isn't something new. Kids have been wanting to grow up by consuming mature content for 20-30 years. Kids wanted to play Doom when it was released instead of "kids" games. Kids have been wanting to watch rated R movies for decades. I wanted too!
I remember not being allowed to Play Halo: Combat Evolved and getting jealous when I saw a family friend playing it.


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I'm not sure what his definition of kids. Under 10? Between 10-14?

And this isn't something new. Kids have been wanting to grow up by consuming mature content for 20-30 years. Kids wanted to play Doom when it was released instead of "kids" games. Kids have been wanting to watch rated R movies for decades. I wanted too!


Nintendo is considered a "kiddy console", and Super Mario a "kids game".

At least, that seems to be the consensus among pc gaming elitists I've had contact with. They also call Team Fortress 2 "For casuals", for some reason.


Yes, I remember how back in the day, kids loved anime because of swears, or how Heero saying "I'll kill you" was a big deal. Although I think some of those "kids" were in college at the time..

The thing is, there's a reason kids weren't really supposed to see whatever they wanted until they were 15 or so. It messes you up.. I should know, I saw a Christmas movie where a kid has his family murdered by a guy dressed in a santa costume, then gets sent to a Catholic orphanage and puts on a santa suit, methodically hunts down nuns, and the movie ends with Mother Superior getting her head lopped off. Part of me looks back in nostalgia, and part of me kind of wish's I saw that three or four years later, because it isn't something a single digit kid can easily process.


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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.

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