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Yoda's wisdom thoroughly debunked
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ares834
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"The OT made the Jedi seem infallible"? What films were you watching?

Not only did Obi-Wan clearly fail with Anakin and the rest of the Jedi fail to stops Sheev's rise to power and the destruction of their order, but they were wrong about Vader's possibility of redemption as well as how to stop the Empire.

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Except for Windu. :3


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Windu is, quite frankly, the least competent major Jedi in the films. Not to mention the dude is an ass.

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Windu is, quite frankly, the least competent major Jedi in the films. Not to mention the dude is an ass.
SAMUEL JACKSON KNOWS ALL.


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Except for Windu. :3



Him and Mundi were the most ignorant during the Prequels.

Both of those muppets also voted to kick Ahsoka out of the Order.

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Him and Mundi were the most ignorant during the Prequels.

Both of those muppets also voted to kick Ahsoka out of the Order.
CAN NON ONE GET A JOKE?


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Darth Thor
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Hard to tell here. Personally this thread seems like a joke. But I dont think it was intended to be.

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Yeah. X3

Aren’t there plenty of quotes supporting Yoda’s wisdom? erm


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the OT made the Jedi seem infallible
Except for their near extinction and penchant for withholding important information from the last of their kind... yeah, totally infallible.


Still beats the PT. The prequels made the Jedi literally too stupid to live.


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Except for their near extinction and penchant for withholding important information from the last of their kind... yeah, totally infallible.


Still beats the PT. The prequels made the Jedi literally too stupid to live.


sure the Jedi were all but extinct but Ben made it sound like the Jedi were betrayed and painted them as the victims, he never made any mention of how they alienated Anakin and didn't jump on clues that were right in front of their faces... Thats one of the only things that I really loved about the Last Jedi was Lukes deconstruction of the Jedi myth

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sure the Jedi were all but extinct but Ben made it sound like the Jedi were betrayed and painted them as the victims, he never made any mention of how they alienated Anakin and didn't jump on clues that were right in front of their faces...

Yes, which is why we Lucas later made 3 movies showing all that while simultaneously tying into rotj's major payoffs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McUwVg6MfOk

Luke proved yoda and ben wrong. He proved the og jedi wrong. This was a payoff that was set up throughout the entirety of the saga despite three films being made as retroactive backstory. This is quite frankly, a masterclass in how to build a cohesive overarching narrative. The OT and the PT, regardless of the slpiness in small scale execution can be appreciated as a cohseive story because they build off each other. The NT is first and formoest an addition to an already exisiting story and hence has a responsibility to deal with what's already been established. But it doesn't, it skips to the empire vs rebellion and to the og characters regressing without any sort of connective tissue regarding how they got there.

This is why the NT sucks and is a masterclass in how not to write a story.

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Thats one of the only things that I really loved about the Last Jedi was Lukes deconstruction of the Jedi myth [/B]

You mean when it wasted screentime expositing about what three prior movies had shown us?

The jedi were literally rendered nearly extinct and their salavation came through their champion utterly disregarding advice that the wisest jedi had been giving throughout 6 films.

the myth had been deoncstructed, tlj cheaply deconstruting the myth to give the appreance of being "profound" isn't good writing.

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Originally posted by relentless1
sure the Jedi were all but extinct but Ben made it sound like the Jedi were betrayed and painted them as the victims, he never made any mention of how they alienated Anakin and didn't jump on clues that were right in front of their faces... Thats one of the only things that I really loved about the Last Jedi was Lukes deconstruction of the Jedi myth
Yeah none of that really matches up with the word "infallible".


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semantics, they were presented as the good guys who DID lie to Luke but it came across as a little white lie that was explained with "a certain point of view"

perhaps its because i was a kid when i saw the OT and i was much older when the PT came out so that is probably affecting my view on things but they certainly went a lot deeper into the fallacies of the Jedi order in the PT that much is indisputable

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I mean if they were willing to LIE to Luke, then they might not have wished him to Kill Vader.

So Basically we can't judge anything by shit they said in those movies.

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Originally posted by relentless1
it came across as a little white lie


Am I the only one who watched the end of ROTJ?

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