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Who will be the Democratic Nominee?
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Biden 17 27.42%
Sanders 15 24.19%
Harris 5 8.06%
Klobuchar 2 3.23%
Warren 3 4.84%
Castro 1 1.61%
Michelle Obama 7 11.29%
Cory Booker 2 3.23%
Tulsi Gabbard 4 6.45%
Pete Buttigieg 0 0%
Yang 6 9.68%
Total: 62 votes 100%
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2020 Presidential Election Discussion
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Nah. You are Lying.



thumb up Course he is. Either that or he is confused.


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If 2016 is anything to go off of, the election is pretty much done as the states are currently colored.

And the reason why Biden was leading in all of those swing states early on: early voting which strongly Democratic leaning.


At one point, Biden was ahead in Pennsylvania I over 300 K votes. Very early on.
Yeah, he won Pennsylvania, dickhead.

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I largely agree.

The best strategic move from the Democratic Party would have been to strongly push for Tulsi. She would have pulled enough votes from Trump to make a Democratic win super easy.
Which he did.


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I largely agree.

The best strategic move from the Democratic Party would have been to strongly push for Tulsi. She would have pulled enough votes from Trump to make a Democratic win super easy.


Tulsi isn't racist, which makes it difficult to get support from establishment Democrats and their supporters


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Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
So it's 4 more years of MAGA?
Spoke too soon.

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Bottom line: Trump won it .

Cry about it.
We're crying with laughter. laughing out loud

Oh, at least you got Texas. You can have Texas. laughing out loud


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Originally posted by Robtard
Trump's really kinda a one-trick-pony.

-Stop testing for covid and cases will go down!

-Stop counting votes and I win!
How did I miss this?

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Trumpers in Penn: stop the count!
Trumpers in AZ: count the vote!

They're so dumb....
Tooting my own horn here. laughing out loud

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Oh we won't have to worry about who the republicans will or won't accept as their nominee in 2024 because by that time a Biden or Harris administration would have already ruined our country to the point of no return.

We can expect full-blown socialism to be implemented and unbridled authoritarianism as well. It's likely we won't recognize our country anymore by the time 2024 rolls around and the establishment will make damn sure that a populist candidate never wins again.


Oh yeah, almost forgot, with all the shit China has on Biden regarding his son they will own him; Biden will be a puppet of the CCP.

They will extort him endlessly to get everything they want and it's very likely that China will finally replace us as the world's dominant power.

God help us all.
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Thanks for taking the time to type out this information which is probably personal. I won't mock you or use this information against you.

The first time I got clothing or shoes that was new was when I was 15. I got a T-Shirt that was a Jerry Rice shirt for San Fran. I thought Jerry Rice was a super cool and talented athlete and admired him so my grandmother got me a T-Shirt to workout in with his name and number on it.

All other clothing and shoes were "hand-me-downs" from my uncles and older brother. My older brother got everything new and I got it as he grew out of it. I still do not complain nor care. And I do not resent my older brother for being the oldest male who got all the new things (in some families, this situation can build resentment towards a sibling that can last a lifetime which is stupid).

I, too, also, have debt, excluding my home, amounts to about $65K. Two years ago, it was $110K. I'm paying that shit off and I will never go into debt again in my life after it is gone. Debt is the demon of poor people.

The only way to start at the bottom of the income ladder and move up is to work your ass off and study hard. Wednesday, I passed one of the hardest certification exams you can get in IT. My poor-privilege didn't help me pass the exam, that's for sure. I was born into dis-privilege. The world was stacked against me. I've always had to "pull myself up by my bootstraps" and I've earned everything I've got (lol, Nixon).


For the 2019 tax year, I paid $39K in federal taxes. I am now a net-positive contributor in the US. If someone tells me I'm privileged, I'm pretty sure they didn't study as much as I did and were not born into as poor of a life as I was. I'm also sure they were not rejected for an athletic scholarship because of their skin color like I was.




More on topic, what will Biden do for people like me to ensure they do not have to struggle against the system as much as I did? What type of primary school education reforms has he talked about?
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I figured out why Trump is fighting the election results so much:


If the states are still too contested, it will escalate to Congress and the Senate and House will settle the debate.


The last time this happened was 1877:



https://history.house.gov/Instituti...ctoral-College/

I think Trump's goal is to make everything so contested that the GOP majority senate gives him the win.
How do you speak so much nothing?


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Yes, that's definitely true.

Here's the science for why they are far more unhinged:

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Because I think 7 out of his 10 socialist ideas are great ideas and only evil people have prevented these no-nonsense policies from being implemented for decades.

I did the math myself. Medicare for all will save us trillions while providing better healthcare. Check this out: you won't hear or read a Republican Capitalist tell you that universal healthcare is better for capitalism than none at all. Why? Because these people pushing the ideas want healthcare to be expensive and difficult to manage. That's where the money is.

But their shortsightedness is what prevents us from having more productive workers, more stable healthcare, greater access to healthcare, and greater focus on preventative healthcare. It's pretty terrible. We are losing tens to hundreds of billions of dollars each year in productivity due to how terrible our healthcare system is.

There's also the estimated hundreds of billions lost because of how far behind the US is on ultra high speed internet and the lack of true net neutrality.

Immigration clearly needs to be reformed.



I made a list, dude. The list everyone should be using to figure out if politicians have good solutions.


Here, I'll post the list:

Major Political Positions:

Immigration Reform:

1. Pass the written and an oral test (disability alternatives will be offered where necessary).
2. Get 2 referrals: 1 from a US Citizen in good-standing and one from their local (US)) constabulary/police department. The second one takes care of the non-violent history check, too. It should also register them in the Law Enforcement system (fingerprinting).
3. Demonstrate that they've paid federal taxes for at least a year.

Anyone who can demonstrate that they've paid taxes for 3 or more consecutive years automatically would earn permanent residence status under my immigration system. I want net-positive tax payers in my country. They are positive contributors and deserve to be here.

I would also offer a direct family option for the new permanent residents and new citizens. They'd have to take DNA tests to prove the relationship. This option can be waived if they can demonstrate, from their originating country, the following (one or more conditions must be met):

1. The child or relative was legally adopted/in care of in the country of origin and the US recognizes the sovereignty/government of that nation.
2. Bringing this family member to the US, under their care, will not represent an economic hardship on the permanent resident - after bringing the person to the US, the household income will be greater than or equal to 5 times the federal poverty level.
3. Medical necessity can be demonstrated by an accredited/licensed medical or mental health professional.
4. The US has formally recognized (a)the country of origin, (b)situation, (c)status (religious, gender, sex, etc.) as situationally refugee-granting.
5. That the permanent resident or citizen must be cared for (the reverse relationship of 3) by the person(s) from the country of origin.


General Government Reform:

1. Dissolve the DEA.
2. Dissolve the DHS.
3. End all foreign wars.
4. Cut the "defense" budget in half.
5. Implement medicare for all (one method which was rather brilliant: the less costly but more often used services will have a greater patient-share responsibility under the plan to reduce the costs of the program so it is not as expensive as Bernie's option).
6. Start testing Universal Basic Income programs.
7. Implement the Fair Tax (which has a UBI provision already built into it which...actually...is rather brilliant and the research done on it would keep the tad burdens, by income, relatively similar to what it is now... contrary to the naysayers stating it would have a disproportionate impact on the middle class).
8. Invest heavily into NASA and science based programs - sponsorship for programs.
9. Anti-Corruption Initiatives:
-Make it illegal for politicians to take money from lobbyists.
-Ban lobbyist bundling.
-Close the revolving doors for lobbyists and politicians (where they move from one to the other or do that for their family, friends, and business associates).
-Prevent politicians from fundraising during working hours.
-Require political money/donations be immediately disclosed online.
-Stop donors from hiding behind secret-money groups.
-End gerrymandering.
-Let all voters participate in open primaries.
-Implement ranked-choice voting.
-Automatic voter registration through various methods and means.
-A vote at home or at the polls system.
-Make every vote count in presidential elections - eliminate the electoral college. Not sure how this should be matured as an idea.
-Change how elections are funded - allow voters to make small publicly funded donations.
-Crack down on super PACs.
-Eliminate lobbyist loopholes - update definitions of "lobbyist" to fix some existing loopholes. Clearer penalties on lobbyists who violate rules.
-Strengthen anti-corruption enforcement - overhaul election commission powers, increase penalties for violations.

Here's some context for 9:

https://anticorruptionact.org/whats-in-the-act/

10. End the Drug War.
11. Release all non-violent drug offenders from jail and prison.
12. As part of 5, implement drug rehab programs.
13. Implement better federal gun controls, across the board, the establishes minimum standards for gun regulation:
-Hearty Background Checks
-Hearty Conceal Carry Licensing requirements.
-Child Access Prevention requirements (and steep fines for violations - too many children accidentally kill themselves with guns each year and this is not okay).
-Domestic Violence (and just plain violence which would be covered in a) - denials on gun purchases if it meets certain DV criteria. Such as convictions or pending criminal cases. If acquitted of charges, then that should not stop people.
Extreme Risk Denials (part of “A”...somewhat. But mental health should be more the focus in this category).
14. Government Spending Oversight Committee. Should be formed and governed by both elected government officials and private citizens.



Where are the solutions from all these candidates? I hear them talk about the problems a lot but they don't talk about solutions. Bernie does. And his solutions somewhat overlap with mine.
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Im just wondering Surtur,if Trump actually runs for Prez again in 2024,would you vote for him again? If you say yes,why

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It would depend on who dems were running against him.

I would vote for him over Biden.

If they got smart and decided to run Tulsi or Yang they'd get my vote. None of them are old enough or white enough to get anything but a token VP position from the dems though.


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What about Harris?


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What about Hunter Biden?


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Cry harder.


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What happened in this thread?

And why is Lord XYZ quoting my amazing and brilliant posts and getting upset about them?


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