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Who will be the Democratic Nominee?
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Biden 17 27.42%
Sanders 15 24.19%
Harris 5 8.06%
Klobuchar 2 3.23%
Warren 3 4.84%
Castro 1 1.61%
Michelle Obama 7 11.29%
Cory Booker 2 3.23%
Tulsi Gabbard 4 6.45%
Pete Buttigieg 0 0%
Yang 6 9.68%
Total: 62 votes 100%
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2020 Presidential Election Discussion
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One thing I wonder is how the Bernie Bros will vote if he doesn't get the nomination? At this point if he doesn't get it I feel like they will say the dnc screwed him.

So would they still vote for whoever gets the nom? Would they vote for Trump? Or would they just stay home on election day?


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Right, right, spin it now, ronnie.

Your post in there for the future smile



So are all of yours where you first assured us all that Pocahontas would beat Trump and then you switched over to saying Biden would.

Gonna be lots of fun requoting that nonsense of yours when Trump wins in a landslide regardless of who dem nominee is. smile


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Star/fly, you really need to start remembering things correctly, or people are going to start thinking you're an even bigger retard.

I've said that Warren could beat Trump and that Biden could beat Trump; they both can. Not guaranteed of course, as I've said Trump can certainly win again and as the incumbent, he has many advantages. As of right now I still don't think he'll win again, we will see though.

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As the sitting President, he has practically every advantage going into Nov.


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Guys, in 2016 Trump beat Hillary by a fair amount in the electoral college. Trump won states that 99% of the media and pollsters thought would go to Hillary. Anything can happen in an election.

Acknowledging that Trump could lose is not betraying him or cheering for a Democrat. Just as Rob acknowledging Trump has every advantage in the 2020 election and could win isn't him cheering for Trump.

My advice to both sides is make is to vote for the candidate who you think is best for the USA and best represents your values, regardless of party affiliation.


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the stage set at this point seems to be gop/dnc/media/russia vs bernie. since he's selling himself as an anti-establishment candidate, I think the dogpile might actually add to his momentum
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Trump sold himself as the anti-establishment candidate, despite being as extablishment as it comes in 2016 and it greatly helped him. Cept he had the GOP, Right-Wing news and Russia on his side.
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plus he won the bernie-bro vote, but that would kinda cancel out this time around, I think


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Trumpers don't know what's coming. The typical voter suppression tactics of the Corruplicans won't work with Bernie bringing out the voters. Americans want what the rest of the civilized world has.


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Star/fly, you really need to start remembering things correctly, or people are going to start thinking you're an even bigger retard.

I've said that Warren could beat Trump and that Biden could beat Trump; they both can. Not guaranteed of course, as I've said Trump can certainly win again and as the incumbent, he has many advantages. As of right now I still don't think he'll win again, we will see though.

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^Conveniently forgets I have also said I don't think trump will win.


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Crowd Goes After Bernie For Defending Communism AGAIN During Debate

He should have just responded with "But Hitler probably did some good things too".


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Watched it live and it was awesome.

But you're probably right, he probably should stop trying to teach inbred Fox Newsers nuance. They're unreachable.


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Watched it live and it was awesome.

But you're probably right, he probably should stop trying to teach inbred Fox Newsers nuance. They're unreachable.


The problem with this statement is he's receiving pushback from democrats too over this.

He also probably just cost himself Florida.


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Guys, in 2016 Trump beat Hillary by a fair amount in the electoral college. Trump won states that 99% of the media and pollsters thought would go to Hillary. Anything can happen in an election.

Acknowledging that Trump could lose is not betraying him or cheering for a Democrat. Just as Rob acknowledging Trump has every advantage in the 2020 election and could win isn't him cheering for Trump.

My advice to both sides is make is to vote for the candidate who you think is best for the USA and best represents your values, regardless of party affiliation.



I always laugh at Hillary supporters who act like Trump only "barely won" in 2016 lol. He won by like 70-80 electoral votes or something similar. It was not even remotely close.


Crybaby leftists typical reply: "But... muh popular vote her derp!" laughing out loud


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The problem with this statement is he's receiving pushback from democrats too over this.

He also probably just cost himself Florida.



Let PL continue to ignorantly think that it's only republican voters who were disgusted by Bernie's "it wasn't all bad" retarded statements about Castro. It'll be all the sweeter when he finds out the hard way that the american electorate as a whole does not approve of them.


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A rather interesting difference between Bernie and Trump is that Bernie actually flat-out condemns authoritarianism as well as Russia's interference in our elections. Trump unabashedly welcomes both.

Think about that for a second. It makes these accusations against Bernie from Trumpers quite vacuous.


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A rather interesting difference between Bernie and Trump is that Bernie actually flat-out condemns authoritarianism as well as Russia's interference in our elections. Trump unabashedly welcomes both.

Think about that for a second. It makes these accusations against Bernie from Trumpers quite vacuous.


You’re joking right on the Authoritarianism part right? When Bernie argues for the forceful taking of one’s money because they’re billionaires, that authoritarianism.

When Bernie argues that charter school shouldn’t be allowed, that’s authoritarianism.

When Bernie’s argues to unionize businesses, that authoritarianism.

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Bernie doesn't **** porn stars.


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Trumpers don't know what's coming. The typical voter suppression tactics of the Corruplicans won't work with Bernie bringing out the voters. Americans want what the rest of the civilized world has.


Except he is not. Voter participation is at the same level as 2016. Not only has he not brought in new voters, he has not grown his support either. He is at his ceiling right now, and if he cannot win over more than 30% of Democratic primary voters, he is not converting independents and Republicans in the general election.


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You’re joking right on the Authoritarianism part right? When Bernie argues for the forceful taking of one’s money because they’re billionaires, that authoritarianism.

When Bernie argues that charter school shouldn’t be allowed, that’s authoritarianism.

When Bernie’s argues to unionize businesses, that authoritarianism.


Wrong:

In government, authoritarianism denotes any political system that concentrates power in the hands of a leader or a small elite that is not constitutionally responsible to the body of the people."

Unions and taxes on the rich used to help the poorer parts of the population have more say and economic advantage in the country are not authoritarian. That's idiotic.



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Except he is not. Voter participation is at the same level as 2016. Not only has he not brought in new voters, he has not grown his support either. He is at his ceiling right now, and if he cannot win over more than 30% of Democratic primary voters, he is not converting independents and Republicans in the general election.


Voter turnout was more in New Hampshire and Nevada compared to 2016. So not sure what you're talking about.


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This article tries to downplay it, but admits it...

"The final precinct in New Hampshire reported its results Wednesday, bringing the total count of Democratic ballots to 296,622. That is substantially higher than in 2016, when turnout was 250,983."

[New Hampshire Primary Sets a Record for Turnout, but It May Be Deceiving]

And Nevada...

"As Nevada political expert and Nevada Independent editor Jon Ralston noted, turnout for the caucuses could surpass the 2008 record of 118,000 caucus-goers, and was certainly greater than in 2016. The size of the caucuses’ turnout was evident even before they began Saturday, thanks to four days of early caucusing (that took the form of ranked-choice voting). Ahead of Saturday’s in-person caucuses, about 70,000 people filled out their early caucusing forms, a number that nearly surpassed the total of 84,000 people who caucused in 2016."

[The Nevada caucuses are on track to break a voter turnout record]


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Authoritarianism is ALWAYS on the left... always.


The further left you go, the less freedom there is for the individual and the more government control.

The further left you go, the more collectivism rules the day... the further right you go, the more individualism does.


Individualism >>>> collectivism.


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Bloomberg ads all over Youtube, regardless of context. Yeah, I'm sure the Louder with Crowder audience will vote in droves.


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Bloomberg ads all over Youtube, regardless of context. Yeah, I'm sure the Louder with Crowder audience will vote in droves.



Yeah, I spoke (or rather, typed) about my irritation over this in a recent post of mine. Nothing but Bloomberg ads on YouTube videos I watch. I haven't seen one ad from any other candidate recently, not even Trump, and I always watch either right-leaning or neutral channels.


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