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carver9
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Who has Weapon H beaten , who possesses speed on this level?

Leo, you might want to equalise speed as well. The only guy who can even attempt to catch up to Flashes fighting each other isn't getting cut by slower opponents, if he doesn't want to be, in a forum fight.

I dont even know why you responded to me with this question. I do not debate powerset, so you probably want to take this type of debating to someone else.

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There's some truth here. Weap H hasn't really battled elite speedsters.

'SOME' truth???????

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I dont even know why you responded to me with this question. I do not debate powerset, so you probably want to take this type of debating to someone else.

PIS is off in a forum. Forum rules state full capacity. Sorry you can't accept it, but it doesn't matter.

Weapon H wouldn't kill Superman. Yet, you're debating powerset and saying he would.

Please post all the times Weapon H kills heroes, especially with basic knowledge where he knows Superman is THE premier superhero on his Earth.

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'SOME' truth???????

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@phil. yeah i get it, but i'm not sure that's how he would fight. this gets into the whole cis issue vs full capacity vs on panel portrayals. even in a forum setting i don't see him instantly accelerating his senses. maybe after getting cut though. i dunno. this full capacity thing just doesn't reflect characters as they are intended to be portrayed. but that is a forum issue i guess. in character, i don't see superman seeing wh as a statue though.

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@phil. yeah i get it, but i'm not sure that's how he would fight. this gets into the whole cis issue vs full capacity vs on panel portrayals. even in a forum setting i don't see him instantly accelerating his senses. maybe after getting cut though. i dunno. this full capacity thing just doesn't reflect characters as they are intended to be portrayed. but that is a forum issue i guess. in character, i don't see superman seeing wh as a statue though.

For me, the Full capacity rule is enough. The Flash might not clock his opponent within the first millisecond in a comic, but it is a viable tactic because it is proven that he possesses that level of speed.

Superman also has that level (ish.....) of speed. Ergo.....

Moreover, we then have CIP. Even though a character has intelligence (Superman is DIRECTLY referenced), he holds back to protect civilians.

You don't have civvies in your OP.

Edit: and it's not like I'm saying he rips his opponents heads off or any out of character things like that. Merely that after getting cut the first time, he.....avoids the other slashes.

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But why wouldn't he?
Let me put it this way.
Which person, in his position, wouldn't do that?
I'm dumber than Superman, and I know for sure that's the first thing I would do. Hell, the dumbest person on this forum would do the same.

If 'full capacity' doesn't mean to use literally one of the two basic abilities a character has [i.e. hit and don't get it], then it doesn't mean anything, and we treat them all like retards. I get it when we move on to crazy town [i.e. counter-frequency him out of existence], but this is the most basic level.

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Full powered kryptonians?

Yes

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PIS is off in a forum. Forum rules state full capacity. Sorry you can't accept it, but it doesn't matter.

Weapon H wouldn't kill Superman. Yet, you're debating powerset and saying he would.

Please post all the times Weapon H kills heroes, especially with basic knowledge where he knows Superman is THE premier superhero on his Earth.

I dont debate like this. Dont understand why you keep coming at me with this. You should probably direct this at someone else who have a similar debating style. Not going in circles with you.

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But why wouldn't he?
Let me put it this way.
Which person, in his position, wouldn't do that?
I'm dumber than Superman, and I know for sure that's the first thing I would do. Hell, the dumbest person on this forum would do the same.

If 'full capacity' doesn't mean to use literally one of the two basic abilities a character has [i.e. hit and don't get it], then it doesn't mean anything, and we treat them all like retards. I get it when we move on to crazy town [i.e. counter-frequency him out of existence], but this is the most basic level.

You're not implying that he would act in a way other than Superman would, right?

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I dont debate

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I dont debate like this. Dont understand why you keep coming at me with this. You should probably direct this at someone else who have a similar debating style. Not going in circles with you.

But you do though.

Your first post said Clay would cut him in half.

How is that not powerset debating? In character, Weapon H hasn't done this to ANY hero.

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You're not implying that he would act in a way other than Superman would, right?

I don't understand the question.

If I give a 8 year old superspeed, and I'd tell him to fight at "full capacity", I'd never hit him.

Is Superman dumber than an 8 year old?

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In comics sometimes he is. So is everybody. In a forum.....

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Yeah, on the forum, there are rules preventing that, and plot stupidity is specifically ignored.

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You're not implying that he would act in a way other than Superman would, right?

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Weapon H has beaten Hulk right? That doesn�t matter much as Superman is well above Hulk anyway.

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Bahahahaha.
He kinda did say it that way. Dude was frothing at the mouth. Loved it.

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I don't understand the question.

If I give a 8 year old superspeed, and I'd tell him to fight at "full capacity", I'd never hit him.

Is Superman dumber than an 8 year old?

Don't be a silly goose. You understood just fine, and you've been on the forum long enough to know how the rules work.

Superman can act like Superman and still win. I wasn't suggesting otherwise.

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But you do though.

Your first post said Clay would cut him in half.

How is that not powerset debating? In character, Weapon H hasn't done this to ANY hero.

Me saying he would chop him isnt debating powerset vs powerset, its new saying he would cut him. He has stabbed through heroes though. Wolverine is one of those heroes.

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