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h1a8
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And? Doesn't prove anything. Even if drag forces were to reduce Carol's speed by a 100, she would still be way faster than Supes.

You are not bringing evidence of anything. Your opinion =/= facts.

Again, I don't need to prove something that is known. You are then one who's supposed to inform yourself on a character before entering a debate.

Wrong! Drag forces will be 500-5000 tons if she travel at Mach 20, depending on her position in the air.

How is it known? Where is it known from?
It's not known that Kree have superhuman reflexes in the movies.

And again, she will not travel faster than her reflexes can operate.

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Wrong! Drag forces will be 500-5000 tons if she travel at Mach 20, depending on her position in the air.

How is it known? Where is it known from?
It's not known that Kree have superhuman reflexes in the movies.

And again, she will not travel faster than her reflexes can operate.

And? She went through a Kree battleship without an issue. Again, you lack evidence. Your opinion is invalid. Carol is faster than superman.

Watch AoS.

Well, we saw her traveling at LS. Which means she can react at such speeds. Thanks for the concession.

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Superman light speed > Carol

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Hey Broly, are you enjoying the spectacle? h1 just conceded. After all the struggle of trying to deny Carol's super-reflexes, he ended up failing. laughing out loud

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And? She went through a Kree battleship without an issue. Again, you lack evidence. Your opinion is invalid. Carol is faster than superman.

Watch AoS.

Well, we saw her traveling at LS. Which means she can react at such speeds. Thanks for the concession.

Going through a ship doesn't prove that she can exert more than 500 tons of force.

No!
Post the scene (or give the episode) to where Kree where stated to have superhuman reflexes.

Traveling at light speed in space doesn't prove she has better than human reactions. So that's dead.

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Mar 26th, 2019 03:00 AM

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And again, she will not travel faster than her reflexes can operate.

That was exactly my point this whole time, since we saw her travelling at LS, that means she must be able to react to such speeds.

Thanks for the concession h1.

You basically gave me this debate.

You will now have to either prove that reflexes aren't required in space (which you won't be able to do), or that Carol is retarded.

Good luck man, going to wait for that evidence.

Until then, I will enjoy victory laughing out loud

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Superman one shots

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That was exactly my point this whole time, since we saw her travelling at LS, that means she must be able to react to such speeds.

Thanks for the concession h1.

You basically gave me this debate.

You will now have to either prove that reflexes aren't required in space (which you won't be able to do), or that Carol is retarded.

Good luck man, going to wait for that evidence.

Until then, I will enjoy victory

You didnt address anytime I said. I'll just repeat

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Going through a ship doesn't prove that she can exert more than 500 tons of force.

No!
Post the scene (or give the episode) to where Kree where stated to have superhuman reflexes.

Traveling at light speed in space doesn't prove she has better than human reactions since space is big. So that's dead.

To be clear, you haven't proven
1. how fast she can travel in an atmosphere
2. She has superhuman reflexes

And she can travel fast in space because it's a much larger distance than the battlefield.

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That was exactly my point this whole time, since we saw her travelling at LS, that means she must be able to react to such speeds.

Thanks for the concession h1.

You basically gave me this debate.

You will now have to either prove that reflexes aren't required in space (which you won't be able to do), or that Carol is retarded.

Good luck man, going to wait for that evidence.

Until then, I will enjoy victory

Looks like H1 lost to himself again

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she will not travel faster than her reflexes can operate.

She traveled at the speed of light; thanks for the concession.

laughing out loud

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Superman snaps her neck and Joshes

The end

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She traveled at the speed of light; thanks for the concession.

1. You haven't proven what max speed she can go in an atmosphere.
2. You haven't proven she has superhuman reflexes.

Therefore she will be a statue to Superman the entire fight.

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Mar 26th, 2019 04:35 PM

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1. You haven't proven what max speed she can go in an atmosphere.
2. You haven't proven she has superhuman reflexes.

Therefore she will be a statue to Superman the entire fight.

I used your own words against you. The one who needs evidence here is you.

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Superman snaps her neck and Joshes

The end

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Mar 26th, 2019 05:28 PM

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CM has no chance against Superman.

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....By this point I thought you would be smart enough to realize that facts》》》》》your biased opinion.

And yet here you are, spamming the thread with your nonesense. Poor desperate Superman fan.

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*checks back*

Yup, Superman still wins. It's hilarious that he's superior.

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Superman snaps her neck and Joshes

The end

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Mar 27th, 2019 12:51 AM

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The last sequence of Carol vs the Kree armada was uber-impressive, some of the best feats we've seen in modern superhero movies, and flying through the black hole (if that counts) is better than anything anyone in the MCU or DCEU has done barring maybe Thor's neutron star Stormbreaker forging (not trying to start a fight over which feat is better, just simply saying that Carol and Thor have the two highest end and most out there sci-fi durability feats from a comic movie).

That being said, Superman's combat feats post-Justice League are insanely high. All the talk of "well, Superman is fast, but he doesn't fight so fast people are in slow motion." Null and void after Justice League. The dude took down the whole League and then beat a big bad in Steppenwolf that literally soloed all earthly mythological figures, the Amazons, the Atlanteans, and a Green Lantern. And Supes didn't just beat, but stomped Step so bad that Step couldn't even do a thing about it. Practically a statue to Kal.

Compare this to Carol who struggled - and yes, overcame pretty easily once she got used to her powers - Korath and the Kree guard or whoever their names were. Supes would've killed them all in a second or less.

Combat-wise, Superman takes it. Carol will have trouble touching him, let alone knocking him out. With the black hole feat, ya Carol has the exotic durability and space travel speed feats on him in spades.

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Carol can actually statue Superman. Her missile feat is so impressive because not only did she easily react and stop the giant missile coming down with speeds enough to go from low orbit to cloud level in less than 10 seconds, but she threw the missile away fast enough that the other missiles couldn't catch up depsite being fired roughly 5 seconds prior

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