Except he's saying my defintion of god has no meaning by taking liberties with my defintion and giving examples of things that don't fit into my defintion. It's like me saying that an alien is a lifeform that exists on another planet and then saying that this defintion is meaningless because it could be argued that anything wierd is an alien. I'm sorry that makes no sense at all if you agree that beings that could be called gods probably exist then you're no longer an athiest. Theism doesn't have to be about the worship of a god but the belief in it's existance.
No it's deliberate dishonest and evil. First of all arguing that Christians have power is like people arguing that jews are behind all the conspiracies, life is never that simple. Christians are now actually the most persecuted group.
But the numbers tell a different story: The United States has accepted 10,801 Syrian refugees, of whom 56 are Christian. Not 56 percent; 56 total, out of 10,801. That is to say, one half of one percent.
Obama eventually did sign an act but this had been going on for years and as I have pointed out before General Flynn stated that the Obama adminsitration knew what ISIS was doing and choose to turn a blind eye and were actually helping them.
Bare in mind people were calling to not just hurt these kids but kill them. Then we can talk about Obama using the IRs to persecute Christians, prejuidice against Christians on social media etc.
THIS is about destroying Christanity and religon in general and anything spiritual.
Recently, summarizing your book Science Set Free at a TED talk, you addressed the problem of dogmatic materialism in science, only to have your TED talk banned because of pressure from, ahem, dogmatic materialists. The irony here is rich, with you becoming the victim of the very motions in science that you were criticizing. What's up with that?
I could also talk about Randi's prize a test which is supposed to be prove that the paranormal exists but you can see that it's rigged.
This is probably part of a liberal agenda. Liberals want to promote Communism and Socialism and in those systems the state is essentially 'God' but Christians and religous people can be a threat to that which is why Christians were slaughtered in Russia. What atheists want to do is create a climate where people hate Christians so much that people will accept killing them, an example of this is that people were trying to justify killing those Covington kids.
Also that there are some well meaning liberals but the people at the top are a bunch of psychopaths they pretend to be about human rights when it has nothing to do with that. It's about gaining control while pretending to be about human rights. For example liberals will talk about abortion and that it's about the rights of the woman when it's really about genocide and population control eg Margaret Sanger founding Planed Parenthood and wanting to exterminate blacks, abortion clinics targeting black areas and black abortion rates being grossly disproportionate so much that the abortion rate is highier than the birth rate.
The Westboro baptist church are probably created by Leftists in the intelligence agencies who want to make Christanity look bad and they are also probably behind these Satanic atheist groups.
I don't think religion is perfect but I think this is just an excuse to push an agenda.
Nope as I said Norse gods can fit into this defintion. An interpretation is that they're not immortal and all powerful.
Well first of all in the Norse 'religon' it's possible to become a god and in Buddhism to. I can see where you're coming from though really what I'm thinking of is beings that are vastly more powerful than humans like an ant is to a human. Also kinda like 5D imps in DC comics where they're technology is so advanced it seems like magic. Beings that have an advanced view of time and space etc
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Yeah, it must be rough having so many elected officials who confess Christianity. Oh the persecution! It's practically a prerequisite for public office.
Not to mention an entire culture that (wrongly) associates morality with Christianity.
Our major disagreement seem to come down to two things. The label "God" and what atheists believe (or dont believe). Like I said, any atheist will gladly talk to you about a possibility of existnce of some more advanced aliens, but that has nothing in common with what absolute majority of people mean by "God" aka the eternal creator of all things. That's the God atheists dont believe in due to absence of evidence and that goes double for more particular versions of certain religions. Absence of evidence. What you're describing is something most of them would consider, but simply wouldn't waste much time talking about because it's all speculation and theories (even if they're statistically plausible). When atheists say "I don't believe in God" they are usually talking about the omnipotent creator of all existence as well as all the particular gods from various religions.
Its not at all the same as the Jews analogy. I would compare it to Saudi government complaining that they are discriminated against by Saudi women because they have the nerve to protest and fight against governmental oppresion. It is an absolute fact that most people in positions of power today are either Christians or muslims. Who dictate laws based on their religious background. Aheists are more mistrusted than white supremacist. It is next to impissible to get in a position of power as an outspoken atheist. At least in the US. People literally think you're an evil baby eater. Thats why certain atheists are so loud and outspoken. Nothing evil about it. It's a necessity in the same way (not to sound overly dramatic, its an analogy) the civil rights movement was a necessity. It's people who've been persecuted by Christians/muslims for centuries finally speaking out. Putting it the other way around brings me back to my Saudi example.
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And there's ultimately no proof for those types of beings existing. Nor is there any reason we should worship them. Hence theism isn't rational and your definitions just make it even more arbitrary and hard to define.
Might as well unironically believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
There is literally just as much if not more evidence that God exists than there is that human beings used to be apes or monkeys or whatever.
If you believe in darwinian evolution and the big bang nonsense (and stupidly believe they are both "science") then you might as well believe in the flying spaghetti monster as well.
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....and before someone replies "yeah, but both darwinian evolution and the big bang are based on science!".
No, they aren't.
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Christians make up about 70% of the United States. You're effectively falling into the same arguments islamophobes make against Islam.
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