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Mendax
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First Order hierarchy?

Prior to Snoke's death.

Snoke>Kylo>Hux>Phasma>all else? And now it's same except snoke isn't part of the equation?


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Zenwolf
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Yeah, also Phasma is dead so it's Kylo > Hux > Everyone else. If the KoR are introduced, then yeah could also include them.


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Galan007
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Assuming you're talking about when all of them were alive, then yeah, that's about right.

I'd also add Commander Pyre after Phasma. Seems odd that a Captain would outrank a Commander, and/or that Silver would outrank Gold, but Ep.05 of Resistance certainly implied that Phasma > Pyre. /shrug

*I'd also assume the Knights of Ren are up there as well -- probably akin to where the Inquisitors stood in the Imperial pecking order.


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Originally posted by Galan007
Assuming you're talking about when all of them were alive, then yeah, that's about right.

I'd also add Commander Pyre after Phasma. Seems odd that a Captain would outrank a Commander, and/or that Silver would outrank Gold, but Ep.05 of Resistance certainly implied that Phasma > Pyre. /shrug

*I'd also assume the Knights of Ren are up there as well -- probably akin to where the Inquisitors stood in the Imperial pecking order.


What the **** is "Resistance"?

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Galan007
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A terrible dogshit of a show. Don't bother watching it.


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When Snoke was alive could it be possible Hux outranked Kylo? Is there any examples of each other ordering the other around prior to Snokes death?

With Snoke gone Hux pretty much had no way of overtaking Kylo.


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It seemed the two were sorta equals to me.

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When Snoke was alive could it be possible Hux outranked Kylo? Is there any examples of each other ordering the other around prior to Snokes death?

With Snoke gone Hux pretty much had no way of overtaking Kylo.
https://i.imgur.com/B1TknKC.jpg


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I was actually wondering that. I knew Vader existed outside of the ranks of the Empire.


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Mendax
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So basically if we compared the First Order's hierarchy to the Empire's it would look like this-

Snoke=Palpatine
Kylo=Vader
Hux=Tarkin
Phasma=Thrawn
Knights of Ren=Inquisitors

And every one else is below them?


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Did the Inquisitors outrank Governor Price and Kallus?


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Originally posted by Mendax
So basically if we compared the First Order's hierarchy to the Empire's it would look like this-

Snoke=Palpatine
Kylo=Vader
Hux=Tarkin
Phasma=Thrawn
Knights of Ren=Inquisitors

And every one else is below them?
Only difference is that Tarkin did in fact outrank Vader, and was second only to the Emperor himself. This is very well documented.

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Did the Inquisitors outrank Governor Price and Kallus?
Kallus was just an agent within the ISB. Inquisitors were way above him.

Where military/Jedi-related matters are concerned, the Inquisitors outranked system Governors -- especially given that they typically only acted on direct orders from Vader or Tarkin.


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It seems kind of whack that Phasma is that high-ranked considering we only ever see her command line-infantry, but I suppose she did have the code to disarm Star-Killer Base' shields, so...

God, what a shit character.


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Galan007
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For real.

Phasma was an absolute waste.


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Mendax
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So now that Snoke and Phasma are dead is it just Kylo and Hux calling the shots?


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Galan007
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Kylo=Supreme Leader
Hux=Second in command

I'm thinking Pyre will be promoted to Phasma's old position within the First Order, so he'll be third in command... I'm assuming Pyre will play a role in the film due to him being among the leaked Ep.IX figures:
https://i.imgur.com/4wPDLQq.jpg

And of course, the Knights of Ren will rank... Wherever Kylo decides they should rank, I suppose.


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Please tell me that gold armor Stormtrooper is not real....that just looks so very out of place.


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Please tell me that gold armor Stormtrooper is not real....that just looks so very out of place.


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Originally posted by Zenwolf
Please tell me that gold armor Stormtrooper is not real....that just looks so very out of place.
Oh, Commander Pyre is 100% real:

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He plays a big role in Resistance, lol.


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Oh, Commander Pyre is 100% real:

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He plays a big role in Resistance, lol.


.........Why?

What next? Diamond Stormtrooper?....


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