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Right? Pyre looks like the Mexican Cartel's version of a Stormtrooper.
I think the 'logic' was to have the gold armor in contrast to Phasma's silver armor... But it doesn't really make sense because Phasma outranked Pyre... Yes, a Captain outranked a Commander, and silver outranked gold. Don't get it.
But yeah, either way it's a thing and you can expect to see a lot more of Pyre in canon, I'd wager.
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Last edited by Galan007 on Mar 26th, 2019 at 03:51 PM
I'd be more inclined to get it if Pyre outranked Phasma. Like I mentioned above, it would at least make some degree of sense if a Commander outranked a Captain, and/or gold outranked silver. But I digress...
Fun fact- even Pyre's primary weapon is obnoxiously gold-plated:
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Also apparently according to TFA Visual Guide, Phasma has a higher rank than Captain, so guess she can outrank Pyre, although she is called Captain...but isn't a Captain.
It is also stated that Phasma(along with Kylo and Hux) made up the First Order's commanding triumvirate. So regardless of her designated title, Phasma was still one of the FO's top 3 commanders.
...Not unlike Tarkin in that sense. Doesn't matter what you call the guy(be it 'Governor' or 'Moff'), he was still the Empire's second highest ranking official, period.
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Last edited by Galan007 on Mar 26th, 2019 at 10:39 PM
But Tarkin made some semblance of...sense, he was a Grand Moff. Captain Phasma is a Captain...isn't a Captain. Unless Captain means something different within the FO ranks, but I haven't seen anything suggesting that and we haven't really seen Phasma do much.
Right. But even in Tarkin's case the titles of Governor and Grand Moff aren't even military designations, yet he reigned supreme in both political AND military venues nonetheless. So in that respect his official title within the Empire was irrelevant. At the end of the day all that mattered was the amount of power Sheev vested in him(ie. the ability to command ANY setting, and even total authority over Vader himself.)
Same basic thing(albeit to a lesser degree) with Phasma. On paper she 'just' held the title of Captain, yet she was still the third highest ranking member of the First Order's high-command regardless.
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Last edited by Galan007 on Mar 27th, 2019 at 12:39 AM
I just can't take it seriously, they should have just had her title be something else. Captain just...I dunno, if she has another title then I guess it's fine.
Since this is relevant to the discussion, here's the mentioned excerpt from the TFA Visual Dictionary regarding Phasma's actual rank within the FO's command structure...
But again, if she ranks far higher than a Captain... Why not just give her the actual rank/title she is?
At least in Hux's case the Visual Dictionary notes that he is technically higher-ranking than a General, given his immense authority and whatnot, but Snoke simply refuses to grant him a higher rank/title.
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Last edited by Galan007 on Mar 28th, 2019 at 01:01 AM
Like them or not, Disney knows exactly what they're doing. Good or bad, all of the decisions they make are calculated.
https://i.imgur.com/npih3Zz.jpg "Hux's direct access to Snoke effectively gives him a rank higher than General. However, Snoke refuses to grant Hux his desired title of 'Grand Marshal'."
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