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Damn it's Sir Patrick himself saying it. Going on rants about trump and brexit. Depending on how much creative control he has(if any) this could be bad.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/patr...of-brexit-trump

Yes it's a conservative site, but it does have quotes from him featured so you can ignore how they frame it and just read what he says.


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Liberal politics in Star Trek?? That's very odd.

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Top guy Patrick Stewart.


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Patrick Stewart is a superb actor and I still got a boner for this show, can't wait. I expect it will deliver Trek goodness.

Trumper's preemptively crying nonsense about this show even before it's out is funny though, never change.


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It's my opinion that Star Trek should be above stuff like that, because it's supposed to be part of humanity's past.

I just want this to be good, but I'm getting more and more worried that it won't be, and that it'll be Discovery all over again.


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It's my opinion that Star Trek should be above stuff like that, because it's supposed to be part of humanity's past.

I just want this to be good, but I'm getting more and more worried that it won't be, and that it'll be Discovery all over again.


Bingo.


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Liberal politics in Star Trek?? That's very odd.


There is a difference between being a liberal and being a leftist. The worry from some people is that Trek will shift from the former to the latter.


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It's my opinion that Star Trek should be above stuff like that, because it's supposed to be part of humanity's past.

I just want this to be good, but I'm getting more and more worried that it won't be, and that it'll be Discovery all over again.


I don't think we're going to have a geriatric Picard autistically screaming "Donald Trump!" in this show as some seem to think... if so, I'll gladly eat crow.

This show, or part of this show seems to be on the premise that Star Fleet as an institution has changed and isn't the SF of yesterday, but a darker version if itself. That right there is a great premise if done correctly. TBH, it's got me a little wet.


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I don't think anyone thinks Picard will specifically scream about Trump, rather just that there will be cringeworthy allusions to Trump.

Let us hope there aren't thumb up


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Very highly doubt it. Some people will see what they want to see though. Tilting at windwills and that.


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Hope you are right cuz it will be all kinds of sad if they pull that thumb up


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sorry to you trump lovers but f&ck that bastard...


as for picard in 9 days i find out if its good or not


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I don't think we're going to have a geriatric Picard autistically screaming "Donald Trump!" in this show as some seem to think... if so, I'll gladly eat crow.

This show, or part of this show seems to be on the premise that Star Fleet as an institution has changed and isn't the SF of yesterday, but a darker version if itself. That right there is a great premise if done correctly. TBH, it's got me a little wet.


Well, obviously they'd use an allegory. Because hopefully that **** would be long dead by then.

Honestly, if it was any other franchise, I'd be all for it. But this is Star Trek. For years it was the one big sci-fi franchise that painted humanity as the best possible version of itself. Even in DS9, the bad guys were the exception, not the rule.


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Fair enough on wanting to keep Trek at its roots, and I would be lying if part of me didn't want that as well. But we've had dips along the way that hint at a possible darker side, if both the original timeline and Kelvin.

But I think if done right, this angle could be fantastic.


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Oh is this about Stewarts Brexit comments? Guy was a proper anti-Brexit activist here, so it doesnt surprise me.

But yeah would be a big step back for humanity in Trek. Although the potential for humanity to step back was hinted at a fair few times in DS9.

Hopefully its executed well.

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Well, obviously they'd use an allegory. Because hopefully that **** would be long dead by then.

Honestly, if it was any other franchise, I'd be all for it. But this is Star Trek. For years it was the one big sci-fi franchise that painted humanity as the best possible version of itself. Even in DS9, the bad guys were the exception, not the rule.



In the Pale Moonlight?


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Hey Sisko aint the bad guy! Hes just likes to live in the grey area at times.

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Damn it's Sir Patrick himself saying it. Going on rants about trump and brexit. Depending on how much creative control he has(if any) this could be bad.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/patr...of-brexit-trump

Yes it's a conservative site, but it does have quotes from him featured so you can ignore how they frame it and just read what he says.


Why would this be a surprise? He was pretty vocal in the run up to the Brexit vote. So much so that he did this


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Ah well, can't be too mad at the dude. I remember him tweaking out cuz he found out u could buy pizza in slices. Lol.


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There is a difference between being a liberal and being a leftist. The worry from some people is that Trek will shift from the former to the latter.
They abolished money and people work for the greater good... They are communists.


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