__________________ Paleontologists have tried to turn Archaeopteryx into an earth bound feathered dinosaur. But it is not. It is a bird, a perching bird. And no amount of 'paleobabble' is going to change that.-- Alan Feduccia-a world authority on birds, quoted in "Archaeopteryx:Early Bird Catches a Can of Worms," Science 1994, p.764-765
I mean, like I said Iran is doing their part in escalating the tensions... By all appearances they are anticipating a conflict. But it takes two to tango... And hopefully we learned from be Iraq what an intractable situation another middle Eastern war will be.
Though if Iran escalates and causes the death of even 1 American, they need to go through with the attack.
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FFS. So it seems Trump did kneejerk and did his 'hell and fury' nonsense by calling a military strike before knowing what happened, but people around him were able to thankfully talk his emotional ass down and why he reversed himself later.
Notice when you hear someone praise him or even just point out he's being treated unfairly...if that person is on the left they usually feel the need to qualify it with an insult lol.
So when Trump is the victim of actual fake news and some reporter pushes it, there will be lots of "Well Trump is a horrible person, but this is wrong...it's not true".
It's as if they feel they are going to get kicked off the island if they ever say a good thing about him without also reminding people they think he's the devil.
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
that's the danger, really. There are many ways this can escalate into an all out war. It's not at all a stable situation.
If it escalates to the point of some sort of strategic airstrikes like what Trump did in Syria that's not the end of the world. But if it gets to the point of an all out invasion or attempted regime change, we're going to be looking at a long, bloody, expensive quagmire just like in Iraq, possibly even worse.
On the flip side, now that we are out of the nuclear agreement there is absolutely nothing to disuade the Iranian regime from going nuclear. Sanctions, etc just aren't going to work. Nothing short of regime change really guarantees that wont happen. And if it does there's a good possibility for some sort of arms race manifesting in the middle East between the Iranians and their enemies, namely Saudi Arabia and Israel.
Last edited by mike brown on Jun 21st, 2019 at 04:44 PM
It's possible but it's also possible he just changed his mind. I am glad that he called it off but this really does nothing but make us look weak. It's like Obama and his red line threat in Syria. You either attack or you don't. You don't pretend to/threaten to attack and then call it off... That just hurts our credibility.
Plus it gives Iran a plausible case for self defense in any future altercations with us. Just a poorly thought out move altogether imo.
Good points actually, Trump did similar with North Korea, he opened up by threatening total destruction, which you don't open up with unless you're willing to do it and then had to tuck tail when Kim called his bluff and fired another test missile, so Trump switched gears to "we fell in love" nonsense.
Or threatening Mexico with tariffs and then pretending you made some sort of great deal with them to get out of it, etc. This really is typical of Trump's style of "negotiation."
But iah Trump has people on his team who really want a war with Iran. Trump is actually the sane one in his administration on this issue because he campaigned on no more foreign wars.
But as I spelled out earlier, the situation is escalating and his "tough" stance on Iran is contributing to that escalation. And it's very easy to imagine it escalating to a war even if Trump doesn't actually want one. This is one arena where talking tough might lead to someone actually calling your bluff.
Because Trump's a con man, a flim-flam man. Though his flim-flammery only seems to work on certain people.
Yep, John Bolton, Trump's National Security Advisor seems to be one of these people who want a war.
Trump is likely just using this as a distraction, thoughts of pending war does that almost as good as actual war. Despite Iran's sabre-rattling, Iran does not want a war with the US, it'll lose more than gain and they know this. But sure, that doesn't mean it can't happen, Trump could easily launch missiles or drop bombs without Congress' approval to try and force Iran's hand in attacking back and that could landslide into all out war.
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