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I'm saving this quote forever.


Lol... but that misrepresenting what I said though.


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...carver..

Did you honestly just compare time stop to speed steal? they're not remotely the same thing

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The same way he resisted time stop.



Anime filler, and clearly not full time stop.


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...carver..

Did you honestly just compare time stop to speed steal? they're not remotely the same thing


He doesn't even know what time stop is. And besides, other sources named it "time SKIP".
Goku predicted Hit's "time stop" and attacked/defended, which is completely impossible unless:

1. The technique is misnamed, and he slows speed down somewhat.

Or

2. Hit can't see what he's doing while time is "stopped".


Otherwise Goku should be a literal statue until Time Stop expires, and any "predictions" useless.


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honestly i haven't exactly seen a proper defense from anybody in DB against speed steal.

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...carver..

Did you honestly just compare time stop to speed steal? they're not remotely the same thing


I'm comparing hax with hax. Jiren powers through haxes. He is most definitely fast enough to take to the sky and he is fast enough to throw out an attack as well.


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Anime filler, and clearly not full time stop.


Sssshhhhh... everyone knows about your DB hate. Go away.


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I'm comparing hax with hax. Jiren powers through haxes. He is most definitely fast enough to take to the sky and he is fast enough to throw out an attack as well.



Not against Flash level speed.


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...Are you saying he's going to power through speed steal...?

lol.. what? that's not how speed steal works. I'm not sure how he's going to "power" back up when his kinetic energy is gone

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Not against Flash level speed.


Why is that? FTL speeds in DBS isnt even that impressive tbh. The weakest versions of Ultra instinct blitzed Jiren so fast that a character FTL didnt even see him move. Ultra Instinct punches were so fast that no one on the battle field (including characters that can see at FTL speeds) didn't even see him move a muscle and Jiren is a couple of steps above Ultra Instinct. I doubt Flash will tag him before Jiren took to the sky.


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...Are you saying he's going to power through speed steal...?

lol.. what? that's not how speed steal works. I'm not sure how he's going to "power" back up when his kinetic energy is gone


I said Jiren will take to the sky and attack before any of that happened.


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There's not a shred of proof even one character is 10xftl, let alone the absurd MASSIVE string of zeroes past light speed that Barry is.


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Jiren's thought processes would also have to surpass Wally operating so fast that he completely 3 billion years if work in a few seconds.

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There's not a shred of proof even one character is 10xftl, let alone the absurd MASSIVE string of zeroes past light speed that Barry is.


laughing out loud

Beerus flew from his dimension to another universe in under 2 minutes. Jiren flew from Towale located on the other side of the Galaxy and beat his team to another planet much faster than their ship. Even a FTL character was surprised at his speed...

https://i.imgur.com/wUO728m.jpg


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Meaningless without knowing how long the trip took, or what the distance was. Kyle Rayner flew to the center of the universe in mere moments, without using a computer.


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Jiren's thought processes would also have to surpass Wally operating so fast that he completely 3 billion years if work in a few seconds.

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Wally's thoughts are so fast, his brain was used to duplicate the work of DC One Million super computers.


Back when Wally was sub light, he was in a house exploding. Everything around him froze.


The same trick as Hit, done at well below light speed.


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Wally's thoughts are so fast, his brain was used to duplicate the work of DC One Million super computers.


Back when Wally was sub light, he was in a house exploding. Everything around him froze.


The same trick as Hit, done at well below light speed.


woah, you got that scan of that? never knew it was used to duplicate that 0_0

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not working

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Try now.


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