I'm talking about the Path of Neo. A game I enjoyed, but here's the clip i'm talking about :
In the space of 30 seconds they lay out the ending of Revolutions more clearly than the movie does. FFS.
For years I was fully of the opinion that Reloaded had the best action sequences of any Hollywood movie in that era and after. And imo there is a lot to like about it.
Despite being the worst overall film, the final fight between Smith and Neo in the 3rd one was pretty much my favorite fight in the series. Maybe too drawn out but was fun with how DBZ kind of over the top it was. Some of the fighting shots with the machines beforehand were cool to look at too.
First, thanks for posting that because I've not seen it and it's actually fun, shows their sense of humor.
But I'm not sure I understand your point. You think Revolutions would have been better if they popped up like 1-bit characters and spewed a rant explaining the entire "Neo journey"? Uuuhh... do I even need to explain why that's not how films are supposed to work?
I'm saying that the most clear and straight-forward explanation is in a video game, whereas in the movie it isn't really clear at all. The movie lets you draw your interpretation, sure, but it doesn't, imo, do a great job of getting across the Wachowski's aim in their execution. And sure, you can say they wanted us to interpret it our own way, but it still needs to stand up on its own. And if it does, I think it barely does if at all.
It was awesome. Outside of the controller issue the only problem I really had with the game was the lack of the movie soundtrack when it was most needed.
Well, you said it yourself, of course it's supposed to open to interpretation. Films aren't supposed to sum up a single meaning/interpretation at the very end. The Matrix Trilogy is so full of philosophical, religious, literary, psychological, etc. references that of course it has to be open to interpretation. The final film wrapped up grand character arcs that make the series much more rich and interesting than the first film ever could do on its own. Stand on its own? It stands on its own as a complex modern work of art. It doesn't matter how many plebeians say, "The sequels sucked." That's what it is.
He gets it (see below). He also covers some of the annoying things about the films...
And I can't remember if I mentioned it or not, but I think it was also troublesome that Tank and the Oracle had to be recast. That worked against the sequels a bit because we had to adjust to even more new characters.
I wanted to give the benefit of the doubt, so I watched it...
Starting the movie off with a couple of bad takes about the original is not a good start.
It's not a bad video, to be fair. But it is one of many "this is what the Wachowskis were going for, and how the movies are good because of this long explanation about the fight between free will and control" videos.
The problem is not the ideas. Lucas's ideas for the Star Wars prequels and the force in general are amazing. They blew my ****ing mind. But the execution is a ****ing mess.
Just like Lucas, the Wachowskis had great ideas. Some of them come through. But some of them really, really don't, and all it leads to is a bunch of people on youtube projecting their own interpretation of it to fill in the blanks (and this video has that too). Not that it's inherently bad, but us filling in blanks is just that. On a personal level? Sure, it's fine. We all fill in the blanks to cover up the shit in the stuff we love. But that doesn't make the film automatically good.
The execution in Revolutions isn't great, imo. Regardless of how good their ideas are.
Put simply: You can have the best ingredients in the world, but you still have to bake the cake. And I think they ****ed up the cake.
Yeah, I've seen a few videos like that one (it may not even be the best one), but he seemed pretty fair in covering some of what was good and what was not so good.
I understood that he just didn't see The Kid's story. Hm.. Anyway, I'm pretty meh on most of the Animatrix except 2nd Renaissance 1-2, Final Flight of the Osiris, and Matriculated.
Remember the conspiracy theory that the Wachowskis actually plagiarised/stole The Matrix from someone else.
I always thought the sequels gave credibility to those rumours because the original comes across as being written by someone who understood the philosophical themes they were trying to portray where as the sequels seem written by someone with only a shallow understanding of what they wanted to include.
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Well, that first movie brought all of those philosophical themes to their logical conclusion. And once that's done, what do you do? And that's where the rest of the trilogy went: into "I guess let's do this" territory.
Well, that's actually entirely wrong. They conceived the whole thing when asked to come up with the idea for a comic. The entire trilogy was birthed at once. They knew that the Architect's screens would show up in Reloaded, so they are shown in M1 here...
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Hence all the word play at the beginning of M1,"It's like you need to unplug, man. You know, get some R & R." (Reloaded and Revolutions). Watching M1 again after you've digested the plot progressions from the sequels is a very different experience. When you know that "The One" was just another system of control, the first film plays very differently. The Oracle's manipulations are more clear. "What's really going to bake your noodle later on is, would you still have broken it if I hadn't said anything?"
Now I think it's safe to say that M4 is an afterthought. They didn't plan it out 20 years in advance and decide to finally do it now.
Another pretty fair defense video. It covers some legit criticisms, too. Some good corrections in the comments also because I think the person who made the video was legitimately confused about a couple things...