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Originally posted by CaveDude33211
After that battle, Mace knew and told Kenobi that Grevious at that point had analyzed Mace's fighting-style.

That meant if Grevious and Mace fought again, there might be a chance that Grevious could kill Mace.

Grevious hadn't fought Kenobi before, so Kenobi's Soresu style was still foreign to Grevious, and Kenobi still had a chance to definitely kill him.

At that point, Grevious might still figure out a way to kill Mace in battle before Mace had the opportunity to use Force Crush again.





Exactly - and that is precisely what the tie-in novels were written for. smile





His Canonical feats don't say otherwise - they establish that he can strike at 20 times per second - since the onscreen-speed is obviously slowed down for the audience.






Because Anakin and Obi-Wan were both fighting at the same speed.

And Anakin wanted to go fvck Padme.


His feats from the movie and tv episodes do not support his being that fast. I'd be more willing to agree if he just appeared in one movie and in the tie in novel and nowhere else.

This comes down to personal preference, but I prefer more than just a lack of contradictory feats. Feats that support claims are better.


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You're seriously that stupid?





They both attacked with the same speed.

You need to buy a pair of glasses.






When did I ever claim that? You fvcking retard.






No - you're losing and you're pathetically retreating because you have no argument left.

That's fine - run away, mongoloid - go crawl into a corner and lick that space between your legs where balls should be.






Yeah - 'cause you lost.

You got nothing left to say.






You're talking about the same movie where a complete novice was able to wield a lightsaber without a connection to the Force and 0% training.

George Lucas already established that people need training with a lightsaber just to avoid badly injuring themselves.

- It's also the same movie where Kylo got sliced over and over again by Rey with a lightsaber and he didn't get seriously injured.

Disney star wars is retarded - if you're using feats from that movie - then you have already lost.


1) You need your eyes checked if you think Yoda attacked fast as that boy. That boy was slow as hell. But this is moot since Baleman was at times shown slow as hell.

2) Disney Stars Wars IS CANON. Also in one of the earlier films (revenge of the Sith maybe) there was a human who out reacted a Jedi. I haven't seen it in a while. But I was surprised when I seen it.


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His feats from the movie and tv episodes do not support his being that fast.


"The Clone Wars" CGI Series is Ambiguously-Canon for many reasons - one of them being Mace Windu being unable to defeat Savage Oppress, but being able to defeat Darth Sidious in ROTS.

General Grevious was already established in destroying and defeating several prominent Jedi Masters - but in TCW he can't defeat Anakin's Non-Canon apprentice, Ahsoka.

Meaning the tv episodes can't be taken seriously or relied on.

Revenge Of The Sith and its official novel tie-in already establish and confirm Grevious's deadly speed.




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I'd be more willing to agree if he just appeared in one movie and in the tie in novel and nowhere else.


Grevious appearing in an Ambiguously-Canon tv show that contradicts The Revenge Of The Sith movie and its official novel tie-in, doesn't change the facts about Grevious speed and abilities.




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This comes down to personal preference, but I prefer more than just a lack of contradictory feats. Feats that support claims are better.


TCW tv show says Mace Windu can't defeat Savage Oppress - while Revenge Of The Sith and the novel tie-in says Mace Windu can defeat Darth Sidious.

TCW tv show contradicts the films and their official tie-ins - so TCW cannot be taken seriously.

Revenge Of The Sith and its official novel tie-in already establish and confirm Grevious's deadly speed.


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1) You need your eyes checked if you think Yoda attacked fast as that boy. That boy was slow as hell.


Re-watch both videos, mongoloid.

Their speed is virtually the same.

You need glasses, dumbfvck - because their speed is obviously slowed down for the benefit of the audience.




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But this is moot since Baleman was at times shown slow as hell.


Who the fvck is "Baleman"?




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2) Disney Stars Wars IS CANON.


Fvck off with that shit.

Rise Of Skywalker revealed Palpatine is still alive - which contradicts the core-story of the PT and OT Trilogies.

In other words - Disney is canon if shit is chocolate.




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Also in one of the earlier films (revenge of the Sith maybe) there was a human who out reacted a Jedi. I haven't seen it in a while. But I was surprised when I seen it.


You don't even know what source you're trying to quote?

You are a clueless fvcking retard.

Go back to drawing in coloring-books on the floor and pooping in your diaper - it's the only thing you're good at.


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Re-watch both videos, mongoloid.

Their speed is virtually the same.

You need glasses, dumbfvck - because their speed is obviously slowed down for the benefit of the audience.






Who the fvck is "Baleman"?


Speed is not the same. The boy was slow as hell. Yoda was a fast little bastard.

Baleman is Christopher Nolan's Batman (The dark knight).
Most argue that he's weak in fighting because of some scenes show that he is slow.



Fvck off with that shit.

Rise Of Skywalker revealed Palpatine is still alive - which contradicts the core-story of the PT and OT Trilogies.

In other words - Disney is canon if shit is chocolate.






You don't even know what source you're trying to quote?

You are a clueless fvcking retard.

Go back to drawing in coloring-books on the floor and pooping in your diaper - it's the only thing you're good at.


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Re-watch both videos, mongoloid.

Their speed is virtually the same.

You need glasses, dumbfvck - because their speed is obviously slowed down for the benefit of the audience.






Who the fvck is "Baleman"?





Fvck off with that shit.

Rise Of Skywalker revealed Palpatine is still alive - which contradicts the core-story of the PT and OT Trilogies.

In other words - Disney is canon if shit is chocolate.






You don't even know what source you're trying to quote?

You are a clueless fvcking retard.

Go back to drawing in coloring-books on the floor and pooping in your diaper - it's the only thing you're good at.


Speed is not the same. The boy was slow as hell. Yoda was a fast little bastard.

Baleman is Christopher Nolan's Batman (The dark knight).
Most argue that he's weak in fighting because of some scenes show that he is slow.

1) Where did the last movie state that Palpatine was alive?
2) Assuming it did then how would that contradict Return of the Jedi? We never saw Palpatine die. It's still within the suspension of belief that he can be alive (same as Mace).


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Speed is not the same. The boy was slow as hell. Yoda was a fast little bastard.


Speed is the same - watch how Yoda parries Sidious's blade with the same speed as the little boy.

A little boy would not be Grandmaster Yoda's equal in speed or anywhere close - so the speed is obviously slowed down for the benefit of the audience.

Got it yet, retard? Or are you still confused?




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1) Where did the last movie state that Palpatine was alive?


There have been leaks for the drooling-imbeciles who actually like Disney "star wars" and those leaks say Palpatine is still alive.




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2) Assuming it did then how would that contradict Return of the Jedi? We never saw Palpatine die. It's still within the suspension of belief that he can be alive (same as Mace).


Wow - I can tell I'm debating a fvcking N00B.

George Lucas, who created the Prequel Trilogy as well, stated in the Prequel Trilogy that Anakin Skywalker would fulfill the ancient Prophecy Of The Chosen One - which states that he shall destroy the Sith and set the Force into balance.

In the Original Trilogy, Anakin does just that, as Darth Vader when he flings Palpatine down a shaft in the Death Star - killing Palpatine and fulfilling the Prophecy Of The Chosen One.

So Disney has to worry about more than just Return Of The Jedi to contradict - if Palpatine is alive - that contradicts both Lucas Trilogies, you clueless fvcking retard.


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Speed is the same - watch how Yoda parries Sidious's blade with the same speed as the little boy.

A little boy would not be Grandmaster Yoda's equal in speed or anywhere close - so the speed is obviously slowed down for the benefit of the audience.

Got it yet, retard? Or are you still confused?






There have been leaks for the drooling-imbeciles who actually like Disney "star wars" and those leaks say Palpatine is still alive.






Wow - I can tell I'm debating a fvcking N00B.

George Lucas, who created the Prequel Trilogy as well, stated in the Prequel Trilogy that Anakin Skywalker would fulfill the ancient Prophecy Of The Chosen One - which states that he shall destroy the Sith and set the Force into balance.

In the Original Trilogy, Anakin does just that, as Darth Vader when he flings Palpatine down a shaft in the Death Star - killing Palpatine and fulfilling the Prophecy Of The Chosen One.

So Disney has to worry about more than just Return Of The Jedi to contradict - if Palpatine is alive - that contradicts both Lucas Trilogies, you clueless fvcking retard.


The boy was swinging the blade very slowly. Yoda was swinging the blade wayyyy faster. Common sense.

You have no leg to stand on if the actual movie does not have or state that Palpatine still alive. There is no contradiction.

Also, what a movie shows >>>>>> what someone says outside the movie. Again Palpatine wasn't shown dead. Bringing him back wouldn't contradict any of the movies. Common sense.

Obviously the Sith did not end with Palpatine. There are many more novels(which are canon by your standards) that take place AFTER Palpatine is supposedly killed.


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