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KingD19
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Also a slugthrower was dangerous because not only did it shoot tiny rounds at much higher velocities than blasters bolts. But the slugs would melt when they hit the blade and shrapnel could splash past a force users guard. Plus there were scatterguns and blocking a shotgun spread would be nearly impossible.

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Blaster bolts are not beams of light bud. They're compressed energy bolts shot out by tibanna gas. Do you Star Wars?

Yeah, they are still beams of light, bud.

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Also a slugthrower was dangerous because not only did it shoot tiny rounds at much higher velocities than blasters bolts.

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It was true that it had been developed originally as a response to blasterfire and other projectile weapons, but over the centuries it had developed into much more. "Of all the seven forms," her Master had told her, "Form Three, with its emphasis on anticipating and blocking lightspeed energy blasts, requires the greatest connection to the Force. The road is long, but it is worth the journey, for a true master of Form Three is invincible."

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The fact that we’re debating that Diana loses is ridiculous.

What’s next, Doomsday vs Dooku?

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^ we finally agree on something.

Clearly Josh is on something and is an ignorant SW fanboi. Diana wins with EASE. Anyone arguing otherwise is just blatantly trolling.

Josh is reported.


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Read carefully next time Robtard, there is a difference in being able and being fit for a job. Blocking a blaster bolt with a electrostaff is possible, doesn't mean it isn't much harder than with a normal lightsaber.



Your gif is tricky. The clip actually shows Diana anticipating the bullet's trajectory.

The guy's arm is moving in relation to Diana's body movement. She is moving fast, but she isn't a speedster.

Unless you can prove that Grievous will be frozen to Diana, which you haven't, since Diana has never frozen anybody, my points are intact.


You didn't counter a single thing I said, all you're doing is forever ignoring that whatever point you had was countered and moving the goal.

eg How I have to prove that "Grevious will be frozen to Diana", which isn't something I ever claimed.

My claim was that she's far faster than Grevious and can destroy him with a hit (or two). Both of those are true and shown in the gifs. You lose again, Josh.


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You didn't counter a single thing I said, all you're doing is forever ignoring that whatever point you had was countered and moving the goal.

eg How I have to prove that "Grevious will be frozen to Diana", which isn't something I ever claimed.

My claim was that she's far faster than Grevious and can destroy him with a hit (or two). Both of those are true and shown in the gifs. You lose again, Josh.


If being faster is all it takes to win a battle, then Flash should have been able to defeat Steppenwolf on his own!

Oh Rob, you seem oblivious of your own fallacies.

Diana has no sword combat feats, dispite how much you like how her medieval suit fits her body, she doesn't have what it takes to face grievous in a sword fight.


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If being faster is all it takes to win a battle, then Flash should have been able to defeat Steppenwolf on his own!

Oh Rob, you seem oblivious of your own fallacies.

Diana has no sword combat feats, dispite how much you like how her medieval suit fits her body, she doesn't have what it takes to face grievous in a sword fight.


Your joking right?

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Your joking right?


What sword combat feats does Diana has to contest Grievous!?

She is fast, but there is nothing to suggest that she can safely contest a 4 arm sword master like Grievous.

All Grievous needs is to strike her with his saber once!


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If being faster is all it takes to win a battle, then Flash should have been able to defeat Steppenwolf on his own!

Oh Rob, you seem oblivious of your own fallacies.

Diana has no sword combat feats, dispite how much you like how her medieval suit fits her body, she doesn't have what it takes to face grievous in a sword fight.


Not what I said and Flash wasn't physically capable of harming Steppenwolf despite his speed(he was also a stumbling fool), while Wonder Wonder is capable of one-shotting GG.

^So you strawmanned me and used a faulty comparison in the same sentence. Talk about fallacies.

"Diana has no sword combat feats" <--- 100% incorrect. She fought and sliced up Doomsday with her sword in BvS. Watch the film as proof. . You lose again, Josh.


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If being faster is all it takes to win a battle, then Flash should have been able to defeat Steppenwolf on his own!

Oh Rob, you seem oblivious of your own fallacies.

Diana has no sword combat feats, dispite how much you like how her medieval suit fits her body, she doesn't have what it takes to face grievous in a sword fight.
I guess it's a good thing Diana is also strong enough to kill Grievous in one punch. She doesn't need her sword.

And her outfit isn't medieval you ignorant moron.


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Not what I said and Flash wasn't physically capable of harming Steppenwolf despite his speed(he was also a stumbling fool), while Wonder Wonder is capable of one-shotting GG.

^So you strawmanned me and used a faulty comparison in the same sentence. Talk about fallacies.

"Diana has no sword combat feats" <--- 100% incorrect. She fought and sliced up Doomsday with her sword in BvS. Watch the film as proof. . You lose again, Josh.


Grievous is also capable of one shotting, oh boy, you have no idea.

WOW! Doomsday is such a great indicator of sword combat abilities!! OMG! I guess anyone who has been able to hit the Hulk are incredible fighters!

Is that all you have?

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I guess it's a good thing Diana is also strong enough to kill Grievous in one punch. She doesn't need her sword.

And her outfit isn't medieval you ignorant moron.


I agree. But I bet Grievous slices her in half before she can even reach him.

Your over love for DC has always been a known arround here.


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Grievous is also capable of one shotting, oh boy, you have no idea.

WOW! Doomsday is such a great indicator of sword combat abilities!! OMG! I guess anyone who has been able to hit the Hulk are incredible fighters!

Is that all you have?


So?

Now you're changing what you initially claimed because you were wrong and embarrassed yourself over it.

Wonder Woman is a Amazonian warrior-goddess raised in a combat-orientated society and trained with sword, spear and shield. Seriously, you should pay attention when watching movies.

edit: She's also around 5,000 years old; that's a lot of training, Josh.


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So?

Now you're changing what you initially claimed because you were wrong and embarrassed yourself over it.

Wonder Woman is a Amazonian warrior-goddess raised in a combat-orientated society and trained with sword, spear and shield. Seriously, you should pay attention when watching movies.

edit: She's also around 5,000 years old; that's a lot of training, Josh.


Not changing anything, just pointing at the fact that Diana will require more than just speed to defeat Grievous in a sword-sword combat.

More fallacies/ A statement without combat feats is useless. Diana has 0 impressive sword abilities.

Statements are useless without feats to back them up.


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What skills does Grievous show in the movie? He gets almost all of his arms chopped off by Obi-Wan almost immediately.

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What skills does Grievous show in the movie? He gets almost all of his arms chopped off by Obi-Wan almost immediately.


I am debating the 2nd round of this thread, not the 1st. I think movie Grievous was too weak, and he has too little feats for me to feel comfortable to back him.

On another note, it's worth mentioning that Obi Wan was able to defeat Grievous because A.) This was significantly weaker by the time B.) Obi Wan used Pre Cognition, which is basically being able to see into the future and predict upcoming attacks prior to these being launched.


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Not changing anything, just pointing at the fact that Diana will require more than just speed to defeat Grievous in a sword-sword combat.

More fallacies/ A statement without combat feats is useless. Diana has 0 impressive sword abilities.

Statements are useless without feats to back them up.


If someone is statued or nearly statued then it takes 0 skill to beat them in a sword fight.


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Diana wins. Star Wars is overrated power wise and tech wise.

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If someone is statued or nearly statued then it takes 0 skill to beat them in a sword fight.


Diana has never speedblitzed anyone!


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which is basically being able to see into the future


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The ability of foresight was perhaps universal to the Jedi or Force-sensitives and was manifested in the form of Force visions of future events, guiding premonitions or warnings, and an inflow of prescience that helped the Jedi predict their opponent's movements.


Not according to that.


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