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How god damn dare u


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Joe Rogan on his podcast talked about how Peterson is one of the most misrepresented public figures. It seems to be the case. I don't agree with some of his views, but i'm yet to hear him say anything that makes him an evil facist he is constantly painted as. His debate with Dyson was the most painful to listen to. Like listening to two highschoolers one of whom is trying to give rational arguments while the other one's pointing finger and calling him names.
To people who say he tries to cash in on others misfortune I wanna ask how? He became famous by standing up for an idea and at the time he had nothing to gain from it but risked losing everything. Now people want to come and listen to his lectures. Most of which have nothing to do with politics. Why wouldn't he do that for a living?


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Originally posted by jaden_2.0
It's a shame that a guy who dedicates a significant part of his life to helping young men become more emotionally resilient struggles with it himself. Mental illness can affect anyone and I wish him well in his recovery. His wife too.
I wonder if his rules were how he was "keeping himself" able to function, having already had a brush with losing the plot. Makes sense, but the inability to bend or acknowledge the effects of deep emotion, which no one can plan for, seem to have been a weakness in his plan, as these things are for everyone. I agree with you and Snowdragon on all counts mate.


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No, I define cruelty as cruelty. For example, exploiting anti-transgender animus for profit is cruel. I would not have any compassion for the misfortune of a such a person.
No doubt this is reprehensible from him. No one should sell bigotry.


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There is a profound sadness to me that young men so badly need a brusque father figure with feet of clay like Peterson. His strange obsessions with gender and neo marxists professors aside, he has been a moderate force for the most part to disenfranchised young men of the internet.


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No doubt this is reprehensible from him. No one should sell bigotry.


Good thing JP doesn't sell bigotry.

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There is a profound sadness to me that young men so badly need a brusque father figure with feet of clay like Peterson. His strange obsessions with gender and neo marxists professors aside, he has been a moderate force for the most part to disenfranchised young men of the internet.


^Legit laughed out loud over this. Great satire thumb up


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There is a profound sadness to me that young men so badly need a brusque father figure with feet of clay like Peterson. His strange obsessions with gender and neo marxists professors aside, he has been a moderate force for the most part to disenfranchised young men of the internet.


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There is a profound sadness to me that young men so badly need a brusque father figure with feet of clay like Peterson. His strange obsessions with gender and neo marxists professors aside, he has been a moderate force for the most part to disenfranchised young men of the internet.


It seems to me, that he was in part adding discipline to a group of individuals lost to internet gaming/youtube. The only reason I know about the guy is how he spoke to free speech and gender pronouns which is what gathered his fame.

The internet is a ubiquitous force that isn't focused on good or bad but obviously allows a gigantic platform and it allows a lot of influence to pop up rapidly.

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It seems to me, that he was in part adding discipline to a group of individuals lost to internet gaming/youtube. The only reason I know about the guy is how he spoke to free speech and gender pronouns which is what gathered his fame.

The internet is a ubiquitous force that isn't focused on good or bad but obviously allows a gigantic platform and it allows a lot of influence to pop up rapidly.
No, I don't disagree, my sadness is they didn't or couldn't divine the world for themselves. Although it seems Jordan's understanding was relatively superficial also.


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No, I don't disagree, my sadness is they didn't or couldn't divine the world for themselves. Although it seems Jordan's understanding was relatively superficial also.


I agree, in part, the internet creates its own world that is separate from the communities that we live in. This is the issue for our generation to attempt to reconcile aside from our cleaning up our planet.

It would be amazing if someone with the resources/brains/direction would push an agenda that focuses on community wellness and global awareness without being dicks stick out tongue

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I agree, in part, the internet creates its own world that is separate from the communities that we live in. This is the issue for our generation to attempt to reconcile aside from our cleaning up our planet.

It would be amazing if someone with the resources/brains/direction would push an agenda that focuses on community wellness and global awareness without being dicks stick out tongue
again, I agree totally. Resilience isn't easy, we all have times in our lives when we feel lost and broken, sometimes we are and we just have to push on. The truth is Jordan gave these kids a framework that to a point will work. It won't work when something truly serious happens, nothing does. It's then people have to find their own way, often with the help of friends, the authorities, whatever help is available. Jordan even in this sense is luckier than most he is a wealthy, highly educated man. As Tyson said, "everyone has a plan", life just has a way of giving people a cheap shot from nowhere, which can easily become brutal ground and pound. No rules will help your life then, just resilience and someone helping restrain life from beating you down.


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again, I agree totally. Resilience isn't easy, we all have times in our lives when we feel lost and broken, sometimes we are and we just have to push on. The truth is Jordan gave these kids a framework that to a point will work. It won't work when something truly serious happens, nothing does. It's then people have to find their own way, often with the help of friends, the authorities, whatever help is available. Jordan even in this sense is luckier than most he is a wealthy, highly educated man. As Tyson said, "everyone has a plan", life just has a way of giving people a cheap shot from nowhere, which can easily become brutal ground and pound. No rules will help your life then, just resilience and someone helping restrain life from beating you down.


I believe that was his point, provide an opportunity to identify a certain attitude then you need a support network to allow its growth.

Now if we utilized that belief system and injected it into say more impoverished areas with money we would have a new "religion" to handle in addition to providing to some really needy individuals.

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No doubt this is reprehensible from him. No one should sell bigotry.



Is that really what he was doing, though?


Was JP advocating any sort of violence or action against transgender people?


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I mean we're already seeing shit like this:

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I have (or had?) similar memes about Courtney Love and Charlie Sheen.

Sorry, man, drug abuse is drug abuse. If you do something stupid, expect to get made fun of.


I make fun of myself for divorcing. World needs less snowflakes.


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I have (or had?) similar memes about Courtney Love and Charlie Sheen.

Sorry, man, drug abuse is drug abuse. If you do something stupid, expect to get made fun of.


I make fun of myself for divorcing. World needs less snowflakes.
I wear both my divorces as a badge of pride, few things last forever. Drugs, one mans drug abuse is another mans Saturday night DDM. I used to love Coke and probably would still abuse the **** out of it if I didn't want to live to see my granddaughter have grand kids and see my third family grow up. I dislike many things about JP, but I can forgive him a great deal because he is at least someone who lives life.


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The Simpsons made a really good point, in the episode about Marge and Homer helping out an old cowboy:


"Both my kids are grown, and had their kids. I made my fortune and retired. Why shouldn't I be able to do whatever I want?"


The law makes no distinction, of course. Even if it really should, since laws exist for a reason (The effect on society! Fatherless kids! Not wanting to work!)


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I have (or had?) similar memes about Courtney Love and Charlie Sheen.

Sorry, man, drug abuse is drug abuse. If you do something stupid, expect to get made fun of.


I make fun of myself for divorcing. World needs less snowflakes.


To be honest there were people on twitter celebrating too, but I'm too lazy to go try to find them all again.


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Would believe anything about toxic twitter.


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I wear both my divorces as a badge of pride, few things last forever. Drugs, one mans drug abuse is another mans Saturday night DDM. I used to love Coke and probably would still abuse the **** out of it if I didn't want to live to see my granddaughter have grand kids and see my third family grow up. I dislike many things about JP, but I can forgive him a great deal because he is at least someone who lives life.


Nice! thumb up

Despite you being a giant wanker sometimes, you're deep down (in your butthole, most likely) a softy.


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Nice! thumb up

Despite you being a giant wanker sometimes, you're deep down (in your butthole, most likely) a softy.
nothing soft about my butthole I do exercises to keep it tight. That said I am always amazed when I pass a shit as big as a baby's arm and yes that kind of contraction and relaxation is no doubt a definite example of release being pleasure from pain. 😊


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