Bingo. And some of the same people who get upset over people criticizing the ignorant little brat are the same people who are perfectly fine with people attacking the mini-AOC girl simply because she pushes a different political view than theirs.
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No, dude. There seems to be an embarrassingly large number of adults who are comfortable and content with insulting her intelligence, her appearance, her motivations, and even her mental health because they disagree with something she said or her stance on climate change in general. Many don't even bother to say why they disagree with her. It's enough for them to call her an annoying little b*tch or an autistic c*nt than to actually challenge what she is proposing.
That's not criticizing a child's ideas, that's just straight up venom. If they said the shit they were talking about her in person or online to her face, it would qualify as harrassment, if not child abuse.
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Maybe if they stuck to facts they wouldn't be called out for propaganda?
Just look at the Parkland kids and the bullshit talking points they spewed. Brian Stelter openly admitted to allowing them to lie on his program, admitted he didn't push back.
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I think comparing Greta to the Parkland Survivors is a false comparison EA. The group has directly and indirectly suffered first hand acute trauma that will formulate there opinions, they have a stake, they have an understanding, they have a loss. Greta may have an understanding of climate data, she may have an awareness of what the future will bring but her behaviours are neither those of a normal adolescent or adult, they are extreme in an irrational way filtered by her autism and her lack of comprehension of how others behave and almost zero emotional intelligence cheapen a message, which would not be cheap when coming from an adult who has some social skills. She is a propaganda mouthpiece and a silly choice for one.
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Dude no, they have an understanding of tragedy yes. They do not have an understanding of firearms because their tragedy involved firearms.
Hiding in a closet in a school while someone shoots at other kids doesn't magically grant you firearm knowledge.
Just like if I witnessed a close friend get hit by a car and killed I wouldn't suddenly be able to repair car engines the next day nor would I be some expect on car safety.
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When a conservative speaks strongly about something he or she is just "overreacting" or is "angry"/"triggered" but when a leftist or a kid who is pushing leftist ideas does it they are "being passionate".
I guarantee if myself or any other conservative was strongly defending the 2nd amendment or the basic inherent right to life of unborn children lefties would not be calling it "being passionate" lol.
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I'm just waiting for her to sail a boat over to China and talk to them about climate change.
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I only used the Parkland kids after DMB mentioned them to compare the kinds of reactions they got with the kind Greta is getting now, not to actually compare them with each other.
Frankly, I'd rather see members of the scientific community talk about climate change with as much passion as she does, but people don't listen to them, and it shows. They tend to look burned out and dumbfounded by the fact that there are millions of people who either don't believe in climate change or just plain don't give a f*ck about it because they'll be dead before the shit really hits the fan.
Greta's core message is for everyone to treat them as the authorities they are and to take seriously their research data which strongly suggests the world will be f*cked in a matter of decades.
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This kinda reminds me of the whole NFL kneeling thing. The cause they were kneeling for got overshadowed massively by the questions of if it was offensive to kneel, etc.
Greta's rants aren't winning over anyone who already wasn't on her side. And the attention she is getting from those not on her side is not of the sort that is leading to meaningful dialogue about climate change.
And she is trying to shame ANYONE who uses a plane. I mean, cuz hey f*ck you if you're an airline pilot. Learn to code?
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Support for tougher gun laws wasn't the propaganda, the propaganda was pushing lies about guns in order to garner support for tougher gun laws.
And again: the shit they got came from the *lies* lol. Or at least that was the reason for the majority of the shit they got. It's like the female ghostbusters movie, sure some small percentage of folk shit on it just cuz they were sexist and it had women, but the vast majority was valid criticism cuz it was dog shit.
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That's her core message and I agree totally it is better coming from members of the Scientific Community, for me she is being used in the same way the silly MAGA hat boy was used by the right.
Definitely with you on your first two paragraphs, but you lost me on the third, Surt.
I think at that point it is up to the adults to recognize the need for things like planes in the modern world, but to also acknowledge and accept that we should be doing much more to produce clean energy and regulate industrial waste, then demand our governments to take action while making a more conscious effort to reduce our own footprint.
Instead, a great deal of the responses to her pleas and protests are pretty much, "F*ck you, autistic b*tch! I ain't changing shit! I like my truck!"
I think it's pathetic, and it'll be that kind of shitty attitude that'll inevitably doom our species, assuming a comet doesn't do it first.
She may be a temporary 'propagandist' symbol (and frankly, I have no problem with that, especially considering the ethics and behavior of the opposition). Or, she may be the embryonic presence of a genuine, dominant force for the future. Only time will tell. After all, all great leaders were children once. For the moment though, let her do her thing. I don't agree that it hurts the cause; one could equally say she's an inspiration (given the focus of most children). If people make fun of her or dismiss her, that's saying a lot more about the opposition than about Greta.
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I suppose politicians and media figures have their own agendas behind their invitations to let her speak at these events thise on the left must give her a platform to appeal to the audience's sympathy, while those on the right see it as an opportunity to attack her position on climate change and undermine her movement.
I think it would probably matter more to her to see widespread environmental action implemented by governments and industry than any individual environmentalist purity.
I'm sure she'd love it if the world's focus shifted from her to the Scientific Community, and could rest assured real and significant changes were taking place.
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You may or may not remember that in the aftermath we had folk going "this is the 18th school shooting this year!". Some of the people pushing that lie were the Parkland kids. The issue is the list used things like...cops chase a criminal onto school grounds and shoot him or...a student goes into a bathroom and kills himself with a gun.
Oh those technically are shootings that happened at schools, but alas we all know in this context when someone is saying "school shooting" they are talking about Parkland type situations.
Then there was "it's easier to buy a gun than it is cough medicine". Which isn't true.
Also they(and others) pushed a story about how a guy was able to buy an AR-15 in 5 minutes with no gun(never happened).
And of course we had CNN's Brian Stelter admitting to not correcting David Hogg when he said stuff that wasn't factual about guns.
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