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StiltmanFTW
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Darth, remember to include this gif next time:

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Anyway, yeah... he's got plenty of nice new feats, but - historically - it's nothing new, nothing topping his old ones, unless we count shit like Solar Flare which technically is a new ability...


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Originally posted by darthgoober
Sure. During that general time period, he lifted infinity... what has he done to surpass that since then?



If you're going to use THAT, how is anything Thor has done comparable to Superman in that era?

I mean, is that feat only applicable when it comes to invalidate Superman's other feats when it suits you? Can I use that feat against Thor or Hulk? With your permission, of course.


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If you're going to use THAT, how is anything Thor has done comparable to Superman in that era?

I mean, is that feat only applicable when it comes to invalidate Superman's other feats when it suits you? Can I use that feat against Thor or Hulk? With your permission, of course.

He's got the World Tree thing, plus evenly matching Herc who has a stint filling in for Atlas holding up "the Heavens" or whatever. Direct parallels, obviously not. But all I said was that they were in the same general category.

No the feat's valid all the time, as ruled upon by Pr years ago. It's just that he's not the only character who's done something which is fundamentally impossible according to logic so if we hold everyone to the same set of rules/standards then there are still other heroes in his general strength range.


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He's got the World Tree thing, plus evenly matching Herc who has a stint filling in for Atlas holding up "the Heavens" or whatever. Direct parallels, obviously not. But all I said was that they were in the same general category.


World Tree isn't infinite. Heavens/axis Mundi is not infinite and never mentioned as such.

How are they in general category when Superman lifted infinity and Thor didn't?
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No the feat's valid all the time, as ruled upon by Pr years ago. It's just that he's not the only character who's done something which is fundamentally impossible according to logic so if we hold everyone to the same set of rules/standards then there are still other heroes in his general strength range.


So quote where say Thor or Silver Surfer or Hulk have done anything that was like lifting infinity?


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World Tree isn't infinite. Heavens/axis Mundi is not infinite and never mentioned as such.

How are they in general category when Superman lifted infinity and Thor didn't?

So quote where say Thor or Silver Surfer or Hulk have done anything that was like lifting infinity?


Yeah abhi, I know you've got issues with high end strength feat from Marvel character, I'll leave you to that. But your stubbornness does nothing to change the mind of anyone else.

All of which is actually irrelevant to the point of our(specifically your and mine) discussion in this thread. I originally said to Stilt...

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Supes's feats haven't really increased in quality by all that much since then and Thors high end feats still exist even if he's currently being written like a chump. Thus is a simple comparison of general feats I'd still put the two into the same category. Waters become a lot more muddied talking about things other than simple high end feat comparisons though.


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Wanna bet?


And what specifically were you wanting to bet about...

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That Superman's feats have increased in quality?




Thus, unless you have something better than Supes lifting infinity in more recent times(regardless of how one feels about Thor/Herc), I was right and you lost the bet you proposed smile


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Yeah abhi, I know you've got issues with high end strength feat from Marvel character, I'll leave you to that. But your stubbornness does nothing to change the mind of anyone else.

All of which is actually irrelevant to the point of our(specifically your and mine) discussion in this thread. I originally said to Stilt...





And what specifically were you wanting to bet about...





Thus, unless you have something better than Supes lifting infinity(regardless of how one feels about Thor/Herc), I was right and you lost the bet you proposed smile


Depends what you're talking about in feats.

Lifting, sure. Striking? Jumping? Speed (travel and reflex)? Durability?

Too early to call a win just yet.


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Depends what you're talking about in feats.

Lifting, sure. Striking? Jumping? Speed (travel and reflex)? Durability?

Too early to call a win just yet.

Oh I'm not limiting any feats at all. If he has a feat of any sort that requires MORE power than "infinity", it can totally be considered to be an improvement. But other "infinite" feats from him can at best equal his feat which would mean he was still at the same level.


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Good Trolling Goobs... people bit, but seriously Supes is Supes!


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Supes doesn't lift infinity.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
He shattered phantom zone with a punch.
laughing out loud

Underestimating somehow made Doomsday breaking both her arms? Stop trolling or I'll report you.


She would have faired a lot better if she didnt underestimate him and Heralds breaking other Heralds bones are great fts but I dont think single showings put characters on or above top tier level. The fts that puts him ON top tier level is hanging with Supes.


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Actually, she did fair a lot better during their second encounter and that was against a more powerful Doomsday.


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Also, doesn't vibranium absorb an infinite amount of energy? Hulk hit Black Panther one time and overloaded the Vibranium in his armor...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/44...Chrome.jpg.html

Even Tchalla admits it is impossible to do.


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Also, doesn't vibranium absorb an infinite amount of energy? Hulk hit Black Panther one time and overloaded the Vibranium in his armor...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/44...Chrome.jpg.html

Even Tchalla admits it is impossible to do.
What does "almost" mean?


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jeezus abhi quit quoting marvel fanboys and their cringey anwers


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I know it's not applicable to forum rules but just show you the knowledgable comic book writers see superman>>>>>thor and thor is slow

https://www.comicboards.com/jurgens-rc.php

RC: In your opinion, is Superman is a lot more powerful than Thor?

DAN JURGENS: Yeah.

RC: Wow. When you worked on DC Vs. Marvel and pitted Quicksilver against Flash, you guys had boosted Quicksilver up to the speed of sound while Flash was running at multiples of the speed of light or whatever . . . would you say that Superman is as many times more powerful than Thor or the Hulk as Flash is as many times faster than Quicksilver?

DAN JURGENS: Yes.

RC: Wouldn't that make Superman, like, millions of times more powerful than Thor?

DAN JURGENS: Yes.


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What does "almost" mean?


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Also, doesn't vibranium absorb an infinite amount of energy? Hulk hit Black Panther one time and overloaded the Vibranium in his armor...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/44...Chrome.jpg.html

Even Tchalla admits it is impossible to do.
So what's your angle here? That Hulk has BEYOND infinite energy because he ALMOST overloaded BP's suit? erm


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I know it's not applicable to forum rules but just show you the knowledgable comic book writers see superman>>>>>thor and thor is slow

https://www.comicboards.com/jurgens-rc.php

RC: In your opinion, is Superman is a lot more powerful than Thor?

DAN JURGENS: Yeah.

RC: Wow. When you worked on DC Vs. Marvel and pitted Quicksilver against Flash, you guys had boosted Quicksilver up to the speed of sound while Flash was running at multiples of the speed of light or whatever . . . would you say that Superman is as many times more powerful than Thor or the Hulk as Flash is as many times faster than Quicksilver?

DAN JURGENS: Yes.

RC: Wouldn't that make Superman, like, millions of times more powerful than Thor?

DAN JURGENS: Yes.


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Originally posted by LordGod
So what's your angle here? That Hulk has BEYOND infinite energy because he ALMOST overloaded BP's suit? erm
That's also not what the scan says.

Hulk overloaded it, but BP says it was "almost" impossible, not impossible.


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