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Spoilers! How does Rey compare with prequel jedi?
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xPRIMEx
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She’s not the best duelist but she’s a beast with the force, which is the opposite of most PT Jedi so it’s hard to compare

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Zenwolf
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I mean is it that hard for her to be superior to those in The Force, when pretty much the more extreme cases of Force Use was rare within TCW?

Like honestly throughout the show, I rarely saw any notable gap between Force Users and even then it was only by maybe 3 specific ones. It seemed very tamed, so of course Rey would look superior to practically all of them.

The only big Force feat I recall was from Dooku and those 8 Orbileks things doing it casually so.


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Darth Thor
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The only big Force feat I recall was from Dooku and those 8 Orbileks things doing it casually so.



Both Maul and Opress have individually and on different occasions shoved a Jedi ship off a cliff.

When Opress did that it was the same episode where hes shown to be no match at all for Dooku in the Force. So presumably Dooku can do a lot more than that.

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Maybe they haven’t done it on screen, but the Jedi has some nice feat even in canon. Yoda for instance lifted a mountain, and Rivi Anu (is she canon) if I recall correctly stopped a battleship or something like that. In the DD novel Vos at the beginning of his training kills a crustacean creature and so on.


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Both Maul and Opress have individually and on different occasions shoved a Jedi ship off a cliff.

When Opress did that it was the same episode where hes shown to be no match at all for Dooku in the Force. So presumably Dooku can do a lot more than that.


I mean yes that's true, but on that note, what is seen doesn't mean that someone is more powerful than the other. At least not nessecarily anyway.

I think some are forgetting that, example just because character A might be able to TK lift a 100 lbs, but character B has only shown to shove a dozen of so enemies away with TK but not lift the 100 lbs, doesn't mean necessarily that character A would be superior.

I dunno maybe it's just new movie hype or something.


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She certainly has a more practical moveset.

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truejedi
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Ok, Rey is a character in 3 kids movies. TCW and ROTS were shot for a much older audience. You can't really compare her choreography or general hamminess against her or any of the other characters any more than you can against the cartoon characters or comics. Told through the same director, the characters might be more visually similar-- kinda have to go back to feat wars to compare them-- as much as I hate to admit it.
Ive always much preferred the flashy PT jedi over all the others.

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Total Warrior, since when is Secura strong enough to pull down starships with her TK?


That's Amped!Rey. I thought that when next to Kylo Ren she always gets an amp.


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That's Amped!Rey. I thought that when next to Kylo Ren she always gets an amp.


She does apparently, so now it's even harder to gauge them both where they stand individually. Well...I guess not so much with Kylo since we've got comics about him...still though.


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I wish they focused now on making Star Wars Stories one-shots again instead of trilogies.


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That's Amped!Rey. I thought that when next to Kylo Ren she always gets an amp.


Nice head canon, but nothing in the movie implies this. Her only amp was at the end when she killed Sidious.

She lifted a tons of rocks at the end of TLJ while being away from Kylo and didn't even struggle. Also, she has an year of training between TLJ and ROS.

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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I wish they focused now on making Star Wars Stories one-shots again instead of trilogies.



I rewatched Solo over the weekend, and its actually pretty damn fun. Would have liked to have spent more movies or just more time with the younger incarnations of those characters. But thats clearly not gonna happen.


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Nice head canon, but nothing in the movie implies this. Her only amp was at the end when she killed Sidious.

She lifted a tons of rocks at the end of TLJ while being away from Kylo and didn't even struggle. Also, she has an year of training between TLJ and ROS.



The Dyad thing. They are stronger together.

Nice feat and good point with the rocks. But to be fair, even then, Kylo wasnt that far away, like literally on the other side of that cave.

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The Dyad thing. They are stronger together.

Nice feat and good point with the rocks. But to be fair, even then, Kylo wasnt that far away, like literally on the other side of that cave.


I don't remember anyone saying the Dyad amped them in any way, and I have re-watched the scene with Sidious multipe times.

Okay, where was Kylo when an untrained Rey was splitting rocks apart with the Force just by meditating with Luke for the first time?

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1)I don't remember anyone saying the Dyad amped them in any way, and I have re-watched the scene with Sidious multipe times.

2)Okay, where was Kylo when an untrained Rey was splitting rocks apart with the Force just by meditating with Luke for the first time?


1) You expect the movies themselves to actually explain stuff Lol:

https://m.imgur.com/CL2fztY

2) That wasnt controlled though. Without Kylo around to mirror she still needs training.

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1) You expect the movies themselves to actually explain stuff Lol:

https://m.imgur.com/CL2fztY

2) That wasnt controlled though. Without Kylo around to mirror she still needs training.


Oh for God's sake. I hate it when they expect you to do homework to understand vital elements of the character's abilities.

Sure, but she has the raw power. I mean, all Luke did was make some rocks float when training with Yoda, while Rey can split boulders apart on accident.

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Oh for God's sake. I hate it when they expect you to do homework to understand vital elements of the character's abilities.

Sure, but she has the raw power. I mean, all Luke did was make some rocks float when training with Yoda, while Rey can split boulders apart on accident.



They literally explain nothing in these films, and the ancillary canon is left to do its best to make the sequels make any kind of sense. For the most part they do well given the stupid stuff they have to materialise.

To be fair though was different in that Luke was trying to learn control. Rey was just told you reach out to the Force and she went straight to the dark side (destructive power).

Luke however before ESB shook a Star Destroyer by accident in a canon comic.

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They literally explain nothing in these films


Period.

lol


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She's still trash tier and would lose against most seasoned Jedi, her brief power up aside.

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Rey is one of the most powerful characters of all time. She and Ren sit atop the mountain.


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No, that would be ROS Palpatine and Rey amped by the Jedi Spirits. Kylo is definitely sub-Vader level.

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