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Is Disney Palpatine a planet-buster?

I was looking over threads on here and saw some stuff about Darth Nihilus.

I played KotoR II many years ago and remembered that Sith Lord.

Turns out apparently Kreia had visions of Nihilus devouring the Sith Emperor (Vitiate/Valkorian)

Darth Nihilus easily tanked a super weapon that destroyed the planet he was on and survived and went on to kill a load of people and travel into space, devouring the planet Katarr, which also housed hundreds of Jedi.

Disney Palpatine seems powerful, but I'm wondering if his Sith Lighting, which could destroy a fleet of ships, can destroy an entire planet?

If Palpatine's Lightning isn't planet-level in terms of destruction, I don't see him having any chance of beating Darth Nihilus.

So is Disney Palpatine a planet-buster? Any evidence?


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Why would he be if all his lighting which he had to supposedly channel all the Sith power, could only be on a fleet level?

A fleet isn't a planet, until the lighting is shown to be such a level, it's not. That simple.

Otherwise, if we're just gonna start making stuff up, then hey, let's do it for all the other characters if we're gonna be playing that game.


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Why would he be if all his lighting which he had to supposedly channel all the Sith power, could only be on a fleet level?

A fleet isn't a planet, until the lighting is shown to be such a level, it's not. That simple.

Otherwise, if we're just gonna start making stuff up, then hey, let's do it for all the other characters if we're gonna be playing that game.


That's what I was thinking. wink


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Basically what Zenwolf said


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Re: Is Disney Palpatine a planet-buster?

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Originally posted by Lighter332
I was looking over threads on here and saw some stuff about Darth Nihilus.

I played KotoR II many years ago and remembered that Sith Lord.

Turns out apparently Kreia had visions of Nihilus devouring the Sith Emperor (Vitiate/Valkorian)

Darth Nihilus easily tanked a super weapon that destroyed the planet he was on and survived and went on to kill a load of people and travel into space, devouring the planet Katarr, which also housed hundreds of Jedi.

Disney Palpatine seems powerful, but I'm wondering if his Sith Lighting, which could destroy a fleet of ships, can destroy an entire planet?

If Palpatine's Lightning isn't planet-level in terms of destruction, I don't see him having any chance of beating Darth Nihilus.

So is Disney Palpatine a planet-buster? Any evidence?

1. Darth Nihilus could not devour the Sith Emperor and neither Kriea had such visions. The Sith Emperor wasn't an ordinary being with numerous safeguards in place, safeguards which will ensure his come back in case of worse. The Emperor's Voices are hinted even in the Revan novel.

There is a hell of a difference between ravaging virtually defenseless worlds and taking on a well-equipped Empire. Darth Nihilius risked getting his fleet and himself blown to bits in the process.

There is no need to take every word of Darth Traya at face value - she was doing her best to push the Jedi Exile to do her bidding and filling her head with half-baked information; manipulation was necessary.

2. Darth Nihilus did not easily tank energy output of the Mass Shadow Generator - he managed to survive and so did Meetra Surik and some others. While stranded on Malachor V, Darth Nihilus showed affinity for siphoning energy from others to sustain himself, and received ample training from Darth Traya in honing his abilities for the needful and more. He was able to leave Malachor V after becoming powerful in the ways of the Force.

Darth Nihilus's extraordinary devouring capabilities were a byproduct of his condition of Hunger which in turn was a byproduct of events concerning Malachor V. However, his condition began to take a toll on his physical wellbeing and mind over time.

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Well we know in Disney canon an unknown amount of Jedi were able to pulverize comet Kinro which was capable of pulverizing multiple planets if not stopped. Rey with all the power of the Jedi was relevant to Palpatine who had all the power of the Sith, so they should scale from the Jedi who stopped Kinro.


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No Jedi or Sith, in canon or legends, is a planet buster. Not even close.


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Why would he be if all his lighting which he had to supposedly channel all the Sith power, could only be on a fleet level?

A fleet isn't a planet, until the lighting is shown to be such a level, it's not. That simple.

Otherwise, if we're just gonna start making stuff up, then hey, let's do it for all the other characters if we're gonna be playing that game.


Sidious didn't strain himself at all disabling the fleet, however.

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Sidious didn't strain himself at all disabling the fleet, however.


So? That doesn't make him a planet buster.


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So? That doesn't make him a planet buster.


not explicitly, but it stands to reason that if Sidious was frying the entire fleet casually without strain that he should be able to crank it up to higher levels

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So? That doesn't make him a planet buster.


No, but we don't really know what his upper limits are.

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Yeah, we have no clue what his upper limits are, but the characters who have “busted planets” such as Nihilus and Vitiate don”t have lightning or TK feats even close to what Palpatine is able to do casually, (hell, not even Abeloth does). So we don”t know if Palpatine is a planet buster in RoS, but he”s definitely more powerful than Legends planet busters.


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Not even close.


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People are blowing this way out of proportion. While a great feat, his lightning didn't even destroy the ships. It's more of a glorified EMP than anything. It's not even enough to say that his lightning could raze a city let alone an entire planet.

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People are blowing this way out of proportion. While a great feat, his lightning didn't even destroy the ships. It's more of a glorified EMP than anything. It's not even enough to say that his lightning could raze a city let alone an entire planet.


Idk about that given the size of that fleet. At worst Palpatine on his own has power superior to a couple of Subjugator-class heavy cruisers.


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It's completely different power though that does very different things. I suppose if the city in question is wood rather than concrete and metal it willl be easily destroyed.

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It's completely different power though that does very different things. I suppose if the city in question is wood rather than concrete and metal it willl be easily destroyed.



True but in theory the shields are the only reason the people and the ships themselves aren't obliterated.


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His lightning causes all the ships's systems to go haywire. Just like the engines and other systems, I expect that that shields would have gone down as well.

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His lightning causes all the ships's systems to go haywire. Just like the engines and other systems, I expect that that shields would have gone down as well.


You'd think but I can't really explain why it would not kill the people inside unless there was some form of shielding intact.


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Its effect seems to be like the Ion Canon from Grievous ship the Malevolence.

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