xPRIMEx
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Kylo Ren runs a PT gauntlet
Canon only. How does Kylo stack up against these PT characters?
1. Qui Gon Jinn
2. Asajj Ventress
3. Kit Fisto
4. Darth Maul
5. Obi-Wan Kenobi
6. Count Dooku
7. Mace Windu
Dec 31st, 2019 04:47 AM
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Right now, the biggest problem with Kylo is understanding how good he really is with a saber.... He's only faced Rey, who she herself is completely featless.
My opinion, his saber skills are likely comparable to Jinn/ventress/kit until we get something more. Force-wise, he has more raw power & potential than anyone on that list. In terms of actualized power, I'd maybe put him right around Dooku's level, perhaps a bit under.
I'd say Kylo makes it to 4 and stops there.
Dec 31st, 2019 07:02 AM
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Tbh I could see Kylo losing to everyone here. I think he is outclassed in sabers tbh, while he should have and edge in the force. If he abuses his force edge I'd say he gets to 4. Maul is just too much.
also, Ventress should be>Fisto
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Dec 31st, 2019 08:57 AM
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Kylo's unnatural chest makes him an easy target...
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Total Warrior
If he abuses his force edge
That's a big "if", considering how he got gangraped by Losers of Ren.
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Dec 31st, 2019 10:02 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Kylo's unnatural chest makes him an easy target...
Dec 31st, 2019 10:20 AM
Total Warrior
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Kylo's unnatural chest makes him an easy target...
That's a big "if", considering how he got gangraped by Losers of Ren.
the dark side of the force is a pathway to many chests, some of them considered unnatural
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Dec 31st, 2019 11:05 AM
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This thread is funny as f*ck.
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Dec 31st, 2019 01:40 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Total Warrior
Tbh I could see Kylo losing to everyone here. I think he is outclassed in sabers tbh, while he should have and edge in the force. If he abuses his force edge I'd say he gets to 4. Maul is just too much.
also, Ventress should be>Fisto
Agreed - I think in a mostly pure saber battle, Kylo loses to Qui-Gon.
Kylo's skill-level realistically is probably around ESB-Luke.
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Dec 31st, 2019 01:43 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Total Warrior
Tbh I could see Kylo losing to everyone here. I think he is outclassed in sabers tbh, while he should have and edge in the force. If he abuses his force edge I'd say he gets to 4. Maul is just too much.
also, Ventress should be>Fisto
I think you’re underestimating his skill with a saber. He beat Rey pretty easily and easily killed the knights of Ren, who are all force sensitive, once he got a saber.
Dec 31st, 2019 05:55 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by xPRIMEx
I think you’re underestimating his skill with a saber. He beat Rey pretty easily and easily killed the knights of Ren, who are all force sensitive, once he got a saber.
This. Not to mention Kylo wasn't even trying to kill Rey in their duel.
Kylo makes it anywhere 4-clear, depending on how Luke does against the KoR in the Rise of Kylo Ren comic book.
Dec 31st, 2019 06:26 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Rebel95
This. Not to mention Kylo wasn't even trying to kill Rey in their duel.
Kylo makes it anywhere 4-clear, depending on how Luke does against the KoR in the Rise of Kylo Ren comic book.
You gotta be joking.
Kylo and Rey both have the skills of half-trained padawans - and it shows.
Not only does Kylo NOT make it to 4 - if he faced Obi-Wan, Count Dooku or Mace Windu, he would get fvcking demolished .
Kylo and even Rey has no chance against the top-tier PT Jedi and Sith.
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Dec 31st, 2019 08:22 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by xPRIMEx
I think you’re underestimating his skill with a saber. He beat Rey pretty easily and easily killed the knights of Ren, who are all force sensitive, once he got a saber.
I remember Rey beating him.
And the Knights Of Ren are basically the pre-schooler Padawans that Kylo decided to take with him, after burning down the Jedi Temple.
They're all jokes.
The top-tier PT Jedi and Sith absolutely shit all over Rey, Kylo and the Knights Of Ren.
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Dec 31st, 2019 08:24 PM
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Without plot-armor for Kylo and Rey, Qui-Gon solos both of them.
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Dec 31st, 2019 08:29 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by CaveDude33211
You gotta be joking.
Kylo and Rey both have the skills of half-trained padawans - and it shows.
Not only does Kylo NOT make it to 4 - if he faced Obi-Wan, Count Dooku or Mace Windu, he would get fvcking demolished .
Kylo and even Rey has no chance against the top-tier PT Jedi and Sith.
You can’t base your argument off the choreography of the movie.
Kylo easily killed all Knights of Ren when he got a saber. The knights of Ren are going to fight Luke in an upcoming comic, so based off Luke’s performance against them, Kylo could contend with anyone on this list. And logically, with Skywalker potential and year’s of training, Kylo should be a better fighter than most of them, barring maybe Dooku and Windu.
Dec 31st, 2019 08:30 PM
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Kylo also stomped 3 Jedi at once in the rise of Kylo Ren comic
Dec 31st, 2019 08:39 PM
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Those 3 Jedi were fodder. And if I recall correctly, he used the force against them. But still, they are fodder, any named Jedi can take on 3 fodders
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Dec 31st, 2019 09:00 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Rebel95
You can’t base your argument off the choreography of the movie.
Kylo easily killed all Knights of Ren when he got a saber. The knights of Ren are going to fight Luke in an upcoming comic, so based off Luke’s performance against them, Kylo could contend with anyone on this list. And logically, with Skywalker potential and year’s of training, Kylo should be a better fighter than most of them, barring maybe Dooku and Windu.
Choreography? I use scaling just like you do.
The Knights Of Ren were pre-schooler-Padawans that Kylo took with him when he burned down Luke's temple.
Then they grew up into fodder-mooks.
Padawan-Anakin could absolutely slaughter the Knights Of Ren without breaking a sweat.
And again, Kylo's skill is around ESB-Luke at best - he sucks.
Qui-Gon would stomp Kylo easily.
And Dooku or Windu would easily shitstomp Kylo while being blindfolded, with one hand tied behind their back.
All of the PT Jedi and Sith shit all over Kylo.
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Dec 31st, 2019 09:32 PM
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Dec 31st, 2019 09:34 PM
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Dec 31st, 2019 09:37 PM
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