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Total Warrior
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Force Users Tiers in Canon

Considering the overall power of a force user, what are the current tiers in CANON according to you?

God Tier:
Full Potential Anakin
The Father
The Son
The Daughter

Demi God Tier:
Amped Rey
Darth Sidious
Yoda
Luke Skywalker
Bendu
Talzin

Legendary Tier:
Anakin/Vader
Windu
Dooku

Epic Tier:
Quinlan Vos
Obi Wan Kenobi
Darth Maul
Lord Momin (?)
Ahsoka Tano

Above Councilor Tier:
Savage Oppress
Assaj Ventress
Grevious
Kit Fisto
Plo Koon
Pong Krell

High Councilor Tier:
Kylo Ren
Kirak Infila
Cin Drallig
Shaak Ti
Rey

Mid Councilor Tier:
Ki Adi Mundi
Agen Kolar
Saeese Tiin
Eeth Koth

Low Councilor Tier
Adi Gallia
Stass Allie
Oppo Rancisis
Pablo Jill
Luminara Unduli

Elite Jedi Master Tier:
Barriss Offee
Aayla Secura
Kannan Jarrus
Grand Inquisitor
Taron Malikos
Jaro Tapal

Average Master Tier:
Most Jedi Masters
Cere Yunda
Jocasta Nu
Eno Cordova
Some of the strongest Inquisitors
Knights of Ren
Cal Kestis
Night sister Merrin

Average Jedi Knight Tier:
Most Jedi Knights
Ezra
Other Inquisitors

Average Padawan Tier:
Zett Jukassa
Other Padawans

Youngling Tier:
Sors Bandeam
Other Younglings


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Lord Stark
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The Knights of Ren are certainly not Jedi Master tier based on their feats.


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Darth Thor
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I mostly like the list. But id say:

1)Luke, Yoda and Talzin should have their own tier below Amped Rey and Palpatine.

2)And if Talzin is off Dathomir then maybe she belongs in the Legendary tier..

3)Also not certain Dooku belongs in Legendary. Although I admit he is hard to place probably being on the border of the two tiers you have named Legendary and Epic..

4)Kylo and Rey should probably be at least 1 tier higher.

5)You seem to have missed out Qui-Gon.

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^ Oh you missed out Snoke as well.

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Vader should really be a tier above Anakin imo.

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Luke is waaaaay too high on that list. He has zero impressive feats in Disney canon. You can't put him in the same tier as Yoda, who can move a mountain in Disney canon.

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Total Warrior
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Lord Stark
The Knights of Ren are certainly not Jedi Master tier based on their feats.
Agreed, I placed them there because someone said the level of some inquisitors. But I'm ok with putting them down a tier

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Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ Oh you missed out Snoke as well.
1) ok, makes sense that Sidious and Rey are one step higher than the others

2)Mmm ok. Was her fight against Sidious in SoD on Dathomir or was it another planet?

3) I think Dooku clearly has something more than a force user like Kenobi or Maul whom I consider the best of the epic tier. I think by hype and feats he should be closer to Windu than to Kenobi

4) Thought so. They are hard to gauge though because they amped each other (since they are dyads). Could they perform as well against other force users?

5) Oh right, Qui Gon should be tier with Fisto and Koon, unfortunately I can't edit it

6) About Snoke, I really don't know where to place him

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Originally posted by Scizard
Vader should really be a tier above Anakin imo.
You think so? RoTS Anakin was already pretty strong considering his fight against the Count, I'm not sure that Vader is one tier above him


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Total Warrior
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If you want to post your lists please do it smile


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2)Mmm ok. Was her fight against Sidious in SoD on Dathomir or was it another planet?




Was on Dathomir...

Her fight with Mace however was off world.

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Total Warrior
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^Ok, I thought it was on Mandalore tbh. Yeah, she could be put alongside Mace


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Agreed, I placed them there because someone said the level of some inquisitors. But I'm ok with putting them down a tier


They can barely use the force. They aren’t even average knight tier.

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We all know how bad@ss Windu is with the saber but what sort of force feats does he have?

Crushing Grievous' chest isn't canon anymore I heard though that was cool.


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Crushing Grievous' chest isn't canon anymore I heard though that was cool.


He can deflect Palpatines lightning back (with his Saber at least), and he can crush multiple destroyer droids with a wave of his hand.

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He can deflect Palpatines lightning back (with his Saber at least), and he can crush multiple destroyer droids with a wave of his hand.
I'm struggling to remember force feats from Windu but those are good. His light saber most likely was doing most of the work though.

Looking back a lot of his power seems to be lip service which is fine with me.


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Originally posted by juggernaut74
I'm struggling to remember force feats from Windu but those are good


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His light saber most likely was doing most of the work though.




Doesnt work like that. Remember when Obi-Wan stopped Dookus lightning in AOTC with his Saber? But he literally only defended himself and did not deflect it back at Dooku.

Also remember Savage Opress could not even defend himself from Dookus lightning even with his Lightsaber.

So the Saber helps, but its still stopped or deflected back with the Force.

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Doesnt work like that. Remember when Obi-Wan stopped Dookus lightning in AOTC with his Saber? But he literally only defended himself and did not deflect it back at Dooku.

Also remember Savage Opress could not even defend himself from Dookus lightning even with his Lightsaber.

So the Saber helps, but its still stopped or deflected back with the Force.
It was impressive but I wouldn't put it at a high level.

Yoda blocked that sh!t with his bare hands.


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Doesnt work like that. Remember when Obi-Wan stopped Dookus lightning in AOTC with his Saber? But he literally only defended himself and did not deflect it back at Dooku.


Because, at that range, he could not possibly deflect it.

Mace was at point-blank when he was deflecting it back --- so it doesn't really count, same with Rey.


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Because, at that range, he could not possibly deflect it.

Mace was at point-blank when he was deflecting it back --- so it doesn't really count, same with Rey.



Distance wasnt the issue given Yoda deflected it from the same distance, but with his hands.


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It was impressive but I wouldn't put it at a high level.

Yoda blocked that sh!t with his bare hands.



Yeah... but thats Yoda. I was showing how the Force is clearly involved. The Saber doesnt do it on its own. Like deflecting blaster bolts. The better you are with the Force, the better you will deal with lightning.

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Yoda blocked that sh!t with his bare hands.


Only because Yoda was so pro and knew Force Absorb.


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