I visit india probably twice a year... india has many different regions, Syrian Christian orthodox in Kerala, Hindu, Seikh, Chistians, Muslims... I've actually seen women auctioned as slaves in Delhi, but not for nearly thirty years. What is your point?
That the rise in Incels may include Indians, and not strictly whites.
As I said, Texas has a large Indian population. And at least in my limited experience, certain Indians are as likely to fit white Incel stereotypes.
Mainly the sorts who can't even seal an arranged marriage, and feel they're owed things to the point of full blown stalking.
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Just another example of his sad obsession with incels.
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Idunno man. Seems that society is a product of people being different and thinking differently from each other. While, with time, society improves as we humans learns and grows and evolves, the differences will always remain.
We all want to “fix” society (although this can become pretty subjective), problem is this isn’t happening soon unless one goes full on genocidal maniac purge or full on dystopic mass brainwashing/mind control (think Demolition Man), this just isn’t close enough to happening within our lifetimes to even be considered a viable short term solution. And by then, the Incel problem that you seem so concerned about will likely fix itself via tech (see below).
Now AR and Sexbots, that can happen in 10-15 years. In 10-15 years Incel-hood may well go the way of the Dodo.
In the article you posted, Eliot Rodgers, is of mixed race. Chinese mother, and his father and father's father are prominent filmmakers. A far cry from a "white nationalist" background, yet absolutely an incel murderer.
The Toronto van attacks also don't fit the white nationalist profile, as the perpetrator didn't seem allied with any known groups, had several learning disabilities, and lives in Toronto (Maybe Canada had their own groups of white nationalists, but Toronto wouldn't be my first place to look for them.)
Even the Tallahassee Yoga shooter doesn't really have links to white supremacy, seeming like a garden variety creep and 40 year old loser.
I mean, yes, white nationalist probably make up a good list of self identifying violent incels, but being one who has all the markings of one can happen anywhere (And I'm sorry to say I've met my share of Indian creeps who have markings of Incels. And I single them out, because their very culture seems geared towards it. Women simply are not at a point of suffrage where the US is, being more locked in US 1930's)
__________________ What CDTM believes;
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
Was thinking in general terms of feminism, and I guess "Woman's suffrage" popped into my head. Of COURSE the right to vote isn't the issue. Indian women being seen and not heard homemakers, cooks, and trophy's is.
__________________ What CDTM believes;
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
Makes sense that if you're from India, it might be harder to form a Western-like relationship. Arranged marriage is still a thing and quite common.
Going from an arranged marriage society to a "you have to attract someone and then make a relationship work" society will produce a ton of incels. A ton.
Not sure sexbots is the answer you think it is, I mean it could help some people in some instances but they would be few and far between and they would likely be so 'helpable' that an easier alternative would likely be at hand. Why wouldn't/don't prostitutes provide the same 'fix' that sexbots would?
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A lot of incels are likely too introverted/scared to go out and get a prostitute. A lot of times, there is the risk of STD’s and possibly the risk of getting caught (prostitution is illegal in most places). And getting a prostitute still requires one to actually go out and interact with people.
And you seem to be underestimating the impact sexbots have as technology for it improves. These will be devices made to simulate women/men that are specifically designed to a person’s preference. In both looks and personality.They can be made to look like your favorite celeb/character (my guess is that a lot of incels may pattern them after their favorite anime/movie character) and you can change their appearance/personality as you see fit. They will never talk back, always say/do what you want, never nag/cheat/be abusive (unless of course you are into that) and be there when you need them and leave you alone (shutdown) when you don’t. If anything, they may be TOO effective and drastically impact relationships and birthrates for most first world societies. Of course, for the short term, the “relationship” interactions will likely be via AR/VR while the sexbot itself will be for the physical acts. And as soon as the demand for this product starts becoming relevant, the huge multinationals (apples, google, amazon, etc) will start investing HUGE amounts of capital/research (likely not the sexbots but the “Personal relationship simulation” AR/VR experience products). At that time, the tech will grow by leaps and bounds. Another alternative is that people can go into VR/AR chatrooms and find human contact there and simply use the sexbots themselves for the physical acts. I can likely go on and on, but the potential is there. I see a booming industry for this and we are just scratching the surface at the moment. Personally, I find it sad, but this may well be the future as each generation realizes that relationships take hard work and compromise. Sexbots need neither.
Watch the first session of the Russian TV show (its on Netflix) called Better Than Us.
Imagine a show set in the near future with bots that finally get the equivalent of Data's positronic matrix - but with the full emotions already available but set in "learning mode." That's the premise. It was created by Chinese scientists to act as the wives for the single Chinese businessman who doesn't have the opportunity to have a relationship due to the gender disparity (one child policy resulted in the murder of lots of female babies).
I give that show a 7 out of 10. They have neat technology gimmicks in the show such as integrated technology (into your body). The main character is frustrating and stupid despite being a top-notch Neurosurgeon.
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To be fair we used to have incels, but I think Bash left the forum I haven't seen him post in a while.
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So you are in fact just butthurt his obsession with incels was noted and have no examples of people defending it? Noted. Moving on
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