I agree that it makes much more sense to think of Maul as a sith that could be groomed to be as strong as Sheev himself
What's weird about Maul is that he never tried to get a disciple himself. Dooku and Vader both boasted the ambition of overthrowing Palpatine which is also the logical Sith thing to do
^ And he tried with Ezra (canon). But he meant while his was Palpatines apprentice. Im guessing he knew he still had a lot more to learn from Palps first. Plus I guess he was just young and loyal.
Yep, I meant it as during his tenure as the official apprentice.
It's weird because either explanation for his lack of betrayal could be interpreted as a self-doubt or limitation in Maul's mentality at that point. Even if he was in peak physical form I think he was too laser focused in his technical prowess to be the most effective Sith he could be at that point
They were about equals. While I do believe, that their lightsabers skill were on par, Maul had a slight edge in the Force. But it wouldn't be much of a factor in a single combat on neutral ground.
Prime Kenobi would be ROTS, Maul TCW I would say. SoD is actually TCW Maul who might be after a months in Dooku/Sidious' prison. He should be weaker, but maybe his anger was greater and that finally made him a bit stronger, not the difference that would matter anyway.
And yes, they fought during "Jedi prime" and after Clone Wars Obi-Wan was rusty old man, while Vader was just a half-machine half-man. Per Lucas. And disney suck balls.
That's a somewhat outdated take. His presentation has been different ever since TCW. With regards to how much Sidious valued him as an apprentice candidate, the fact that he was willing to betray Talzin, who at the time was poised to become his shadow hand, to get his hands on Maul is telling.
^ Well apparently not given that if you have Palpatine blood you will just wake up one day and find you can shoot out starship destroying lightning without even having any training in the ability
In general though, I feel like the more time passed, the gap between them just got bigger and bigger. Even if we take TCW Maul as being his peak, he's still lagging behind Kenobi's peak by quite a bit, imo,
I actually thought you made a good point about Maul being a sycophant for 10+years whilst Kenobi was getting better and better, given they are actually around the same age.
That said, depends when you think their respective peaks are, but certainly late in the Clone Wars, I see no evidence for there being some kind of huge gap between them. And in a direct fight in that period, Maul would likely have the psychological advantage of having murdered Satine in front of Obi.
Not quite that simple.
Especially for Maul who was out of action for many years.
Jan 16th, 2020 12:48 PM
