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The Summers brothers in the Fox X-Men movies were both arguably even less than useless. Scott's most notable feat is busting the dam in X2, nearly killing his allies. Alex's most notable feat is busting the X-Mansion in Apocalypse, nearly killing his allies.


For Alex: and killing himself in the process. I really don't know what got into Singer, Kinsberg, etc. with the Summers brothers, they could've been great characters, but they took a dump on them every. single. movie. Except maybe First Class.

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That’s a good one! big grin


Thanks Riv! Great character actor, love that movie, but 'tis the truth about Mr. Knox.

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And yet in Dark Phoenix, Scott actually IS useful. A bit late, but still.


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And yet in Dark Phoenix, Scott actually IS useful. A bit late, but still.


Was he though?

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horribly written.. boyega really phoned it all in for the trilogy.. he acted like a stalker.. he was just there to scream "REYYYYYYY"... "REYYYYYYYY..."


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Thanks Riv! Great character actor, love that movie, but 'tis the truth about Mr. Knox.

It -was- pretty cool seeing his cameo at the start of CW’s Crisis, though!


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For Alex: and killing himself in the process. I really don't know what got into Singer, Kinsberg, etc. with the Summers brothers, they could've been great characters, but they took a dump on them every. single. movie. Except maybe First Class.


Even in First Class, Alex was portrayed as kind of an a-hole who could barely control his powers (yet proceeded to still make fun of others). The only decent portrayal he had was in DoFP, because he was only in it for 5 minutes. And then they kind of still ruin it to a degree by changing his powers from heat effect to force effect.

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And yet in Dark Phoenix, Scott actually IS useful. A bit late, but still.


Not all that much IMO. Beyond fulfilling a combat role relatively competently for a change (but you could have stuck any decently powerful generic mutant in there to do similar for the action scenes, tbh), when he tried to actually stop Jean from heading off, she just casually put him to sleep. And in terms of the emotional aspect, Mystique's death and how everyone reacts to it plays a much bigger role in the narrative than Scott does. Unless I am forgetting something specific he did in that regard. Admittedly, I found that movie boring as shit, so have forgotten a lot of it.


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Was he though?

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He got a fairly decent body count on the train. That's about it, but still.

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Even in First Class, Alex was portrayed as kind of an a-hole who could barely control his powers (yet proceeded to still make fun of others). The only decent portrayal he had was in DoFP, because he was only in it for 5 minutes. And then they kind of still ruin it to a degree by changing his powers from heat effect to force effect.



Not all that much IMO. Beyond fulfilling a combat role relatively competently for a change (but you could have stuck any decently powerful generic mutant in there to do similar for the action scenes, tbh), when he tried to actually stop Jean from heading off, she just casually put him to sleep. And in terms of the emotional aspect, Mystique's death and how everyone reacts to it plays a much bigger role in the narrative than Scott does. Unless I am forgetting something specific he did in that regard. Admittedly, I found that movie boring as shit, so have forgotten a lot of it.


Yeah, but they didn't put any other mutant in there. They put him. So it counts, as crappy as the FX looked. stick out tongue


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It -was- pretty cool seeing his cameo at the start of CW’s Crisis, though!


I haven't watched much of anything from the DC CW stuff since Flash season 1 and most of Black Lightning season 1, but I've been looking up Crisis on Infinite Earths clips on YouTube, but missed his cameo. My goodness, the Danny Elfman theme with him in that scene...simply magnificent. I think between it and Endgame, my nerd-dome is now complete. Thank you sir!

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Yeah, but they didn't put any other mutant in there. They put him. So it counts, as crappy as the FX looked. stick out tongue


It shows you how badly Singer (and co.) treated the brothers though. That one of them being portrayed reasonably competently at using their powers is pretty much the best that we got.


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