I feel like Superman, when completely unleashed/bloodlusted(ala OWAW), could match...and probably even exceed...Prime.
However, Superman reaching a fully 'no holds barred' mental state like that is an extreeeeemely rare occurrence. He's done it, what? Two or three times in his entire 80+ year character history?
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if superman went into a fight fully unhinged and unleashed like prime always is, he'd be wrecking house just as casually. take the owaw example galan mentioned- superman wasnt restraining himself there and was oneshotting imperiex probes with no effort at all.
all clark has to do is let go and bam, he's at that level.
Last edited by DeadpoolXXX on Jan 27th, 2020 at 02:49 PM
Well, the 'holding back' part has nothing to do with how casual you are, or not.
Superman casually tore through an army of Imperiex Probes once he changed his mindset, but beforehand he seriously struggled with one while ridiculously angry: https://imgur.com/a/g9Nic [at this point you'd have thought this is his ceiling given his emotional state, but he went several tiers above this afterwards]
It's about breaking the subconscious barriers that is keeping his power in check, not his level of chill.
Prime is a guy who just simply Superman who has never put subconscious and conscious barriers over his power throughout his entire life, because he didn't need to, so he's just punching through people and crying/laughing about it randomly.
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Last edited by Philosophía on Jan 27th, 2020 at 05:13 PM
i still think youre looking at it wrong. when superman stops holding back and unleashes, hes doing things "casually" as well. again- he was busting through imperiex probes like they were made of cardboard during owaw. no apparent effort whatsoever.
it all has to do with mindset. prime is always IN that mindset but superman rarely is. WHEN superman lets go and enters that mindset he can do things just as easily as prime. thats my point
But how can you do something casually, while also going all out ? Because Prime also fluctuates with the strength he uses, without a doubt. Superman unhinged also goes up a tier no doubt, but that’s him using an effort that Prime does not have to use, usually because Prime doesn’t actually run into people he has to use effort on.
He’s got Superboy and Flash phobia, and that basically takes care of every low showing he’s ever had.
My understanding of Prime is that as a pre crisis Kryptonian, he’s SUPPOSED to be different, on a different strength level.
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