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Why the Corona curve is higher and steeper than reported.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...h-toll-is-wrong


The UK may be fine because the US has a much faster death reporting system that all medical institutions are required to follow so our death reporting is much closer to "real-time" than the often delayed NHS system. We need to adopt the NHS data system, however. Just not their practices for gathering data.


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as i've been saying all along: the data which has wallpapered this thread has been incomplete, flawed, and unreliable from the start


Spot on. The mortality rate has sharply dropped and we now know far more people have been exposed to the virus but show no symptoms or had very mild symptoms.

It will take many more weeks before we can truly assess the R0, MR, and get an accurate CFR. R0 is higher than originally thought, the MR is much lower than originally thought, and the CFR is much much lower than originally thought.


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BBC news reported numbers falling in Spain and Italy*. They suggest we're in the peak and cases might fall.

This is good news.

*directly from Spanish and Italian sources.


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BBC news reported numbers falling in Spain and Italy*. They suggest we're in the peak and cases might fall.

This is good news.

*directly from Spanish and Italian sources.


I have more good news:

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It's likely that these quarantines and lockdowns saved tons of lives but it had nothing to do with COVID-19 cases.


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More news but it is not good (there is a good element to it but an infant still died):

The infant that supposedly died of COVID-19 didn't actually die of COVID-19. It was smothered to death by the caretaker:

https://twitter.com/realcandaceo/st...4413864963?s=21


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BBC news reported numbers falling in Spain and Italy*. They suggest we're in the peak and cases might fall.

This is good news.

*directly from Spanish and Italian sources.
Good news


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I have more good news:

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It's likely that these quarantines and lockdowns saved tons of lives but it had nothing to do with COVID-19 cases.
THat's.....VERY good news.


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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment...-170050216.html

Oh lordy!
I'm not surprised.


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No real examples given of the deceptive practices.

Will definitely try and follow this.


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Oh lordy!


In the same vein, I'd like to see the CDC and the WHO charged for harmful misinformation. They spread false information about COVID-19 and offered no corrections when people over-blew the mortality rate. They caused panic and they have caused lives to be lost because of their actions.


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And someone (was it XYZ?) posted that the daily new deaths has stagnated. Looks like it stagnated for a second day in a row.


The end is in sight.


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or it may simply mean that social distancing and lockdowns have been effective. or maybe not.


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or it may simply mean that social distancing and lockdowns have been effective. or maybe not.


Probably not since we saw this saturation point occurring about 2-3 weeks ago and the explosive exponential rates did not keep up.


If the quarantines and lockdowns were effective, we would have seen a sharp drop about 3 days ago with about 2 days prior to that reflecting a significant reduction. We saw no such thing in the previous 5 days.




I know you really really need to justify the lockdowns 'because Trump' but they were never necessary and were actually inappropriate.


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"At least 1,224 deaths were reported in the United States Saturday -- a record for the most coronavirus deaths reported in a single day."


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"At least 1,224 deaths were reported in the United States Saturday -- a record for the most coronavirus deaths reported in a single day."


Still not a jump in deaths that reflects "exponential growth." Saturation. smile

So those quarantines aren't working, right? Looks like we should end all quarantines and go back to our lives just not visit the elderly.


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holy f*ck stop replying to me. I simply posted a factual statistic, not a debate point aimed at you, for you to try to dismiss


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Geez. Bashy is still an angry little phish... Toke Up and Chill Out AssWanker.

Or just go lick a toilet.


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It seems unlikely that there is a large immunization in the general population, therefore measures to slow down the spread seem appropriate.

We'll hopefully soon get some more data about when widespread testing becomes feasible, I think some countries in Europe are already planning projects like that for the near future.

However even with the data we have now we can make some reasonable estimates how far the virus has spread asymptomatically, and the hope that a large percentage of the populace already had it, sadly, seems like wishful thinking.

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I'm with DDM, the lockdowns has helped in cases like pneumonia, but COVID19, it was a bit extreme.....

Ah well, lives have been saved and we're in the waning period now. Attribute that to the lockdowns, it's not much of a bother to me, I'm just glad we're on the up.


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Geez. Bashy is still an angry little phish... Toke Up and Chill Out AssWanker.

Or just go lick a toilet.



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