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Depends how easily Logan's claws can cut Cage. I do think they can, I just don't know how much damage each cut will make. I doubt he can dismember Cage with a single swipe, and Cage is strong enough to easily knock around Logan.
I do think Logan wins but it won't be too one sided. Logan probably suffers a dislocated limb or a few moments of nearly getting knocked out before he can dispatch Cage.
Logan has also taken far more damage than the bullet with ease. That's one of his lowest feats.
He's also cut through enough that Cage wont be able to just ignore his claws. Especially around the squishy bits Logan likes to target. Eyes, face, balls, etc...
Last edited by KingD19 on Mar 16th, 2020 at 01:56 AM
Juggernaut headbutting him at a full sprint. The same headbutt that blasts apart stone walls. Also after the single shot, he took sustained full automatic fire when he escapes WEAPON x without slowing down at all. And more than one hit him In the head.
And those were assault rifles, so a bigger caliber of bullet.
Last edited by KingD19 on Mar 16th, 2020 at 02:11 AM
Juggernaut headbutt him on his body while Logan was jumping. It wasn't a direct hit to head like that gunshot was. As for the WeaponX firefight, the only time I recall him getting hit in the head was as he got out of his "birthing chamber" and Zero's shot glanced off his head. Still, it was a glancing shot instead of a direct hit.
But even if he did get hit in the head with some bullets, you said he's taken on far more damage than that with ease... so I'm looking for greater concussive hits to the head which he tanked.
From what I can tell, getting knocked out by a bullet isn't really a low point for him. He already got knocked out for a bit by just smashing through a windshield and Sabertooth knocked him out cold by hitting him with a small tree trunk.
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Last edited by FrothByte on Mar 16th, 2020 at 02:12 AM
I can’t speak to how squishy Cage’s balls are, but, how many invulnerable characters has Wolverine actually cut to pieces?
I have to admit I stopped paying attention to the X franchise ages ago.
Now, pls don’t claim comic book feats, or make up instances that don’t exist. I just want some actual examples that would actually change my mind.
Thanks in advance.
I can’t speak to how squishy Cage’s balls are, but, how many invulnerable characters has Wolverine actually cut to pieces?
I have to admit I stopped paying attention to the X franchise ages ago.
Now, pls don’t claim comic book feats, or make up instances that don’t exist. I just want some actual examples that would change my mind.
Thanks in advance.
Not really commenting on the result, but would just like the point out that Cage's face, eyes and balls aren't that squishy. When they treated him for the shotgun in JJ, they had to roll the actual eye back to insert the needle through a duct behind it. And Cockroach put his own leg in a cast kicking Cage in the balls. And Bushmaster has also literally tried stabbing Luke in the face before, even dragging a blade down his cheek. Obviously, not the same as Logan, but it also shows that Cage is far more resistant to those things than a regular person.
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He absolutely is. But they are squishy in comparison to the rest of him, even though they are super tough, they're still eyes compared to skin/muscle/bone for example. Considering Logan's own superhuman strength + the force he can exert because of his bones + how sharp his claws are, Cage will have to be careful is what I'm saying.
As for more noticeable impacts than the bullet. In X3 he gets cracked in the skull by speeding debris that Colossus and Rogue had to armor up to tank. It visibly annoyed him, but he was fine. The impact was hard enough to knock Colossus sideways and knock Wolverine's head to the side, splitting his forehead down to the adamantium.
He was point blank at an explosion he set off in The Wolverine, with enough force to send guys flying backward like ragdolls, and it didn't even move him from his spot, much less knock him out.
In Apocalypse, he just ignores being shot full on by multiple people with automatic guns. I believe they're MP5's, and he gets hit in the face at least a few times and ignores the shots.
And in Origins, it was not a glancing shot. The guy who shot him was Zero, who's whole gimmick was accuracy and perfect aim and super stats. He hit Logan dead center in the forehead, fully exposing the Adamantium. His shot actually seemed to do more damage than the Cop's as the cop's shot got stuck in his skin and barely showed any skull. Also it appears he shot him with both guns in the same spot.
Also in Origins before he got his Adamantium, Sabretooth dropped a few tons of logs on his face, then threw him in front of a logging truck, and he was still fully conscious after getting hit and rolling off the back.
Blob, the guy who can punch tank shells headbutted Wolverine and knocked himself out. He also took a bunch of solid haymakers from Blob without getting knocked out.
Yeah, I think you meant to direct that at Frothbyte, because I only commented on Cage's durability. I never said anything about Logan's. And for all Logan's cutting feats, he has yet to actually pierce something or someone as durable as Cage. Because, by actual feats, characters like X2 Juggs do NOT have better or even comparable piercing durability to current Luke, who can and has withstood everything from machine gun fire, to carpenter's saws, to medical drills, numerous explosions, alien metal bullets and even a direct hit from an anti-aircraft missile without even receiving a mild scratch or scuff mark. Now, not saying he can't (I think Logan could inflict damage, but would have more difficulty making deeper cuts/stabs), but what you have presented so far doesn't conclusively prove he can actually do so.
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I'm on my phone so making even more links was something I didnt feel like doing. I just continued. And mainly I'm showing his durability. Logan has cut through stuff like military vehicles, reinforced walls, a sentinels entire head, a moving helicopter blade. I'm not saying it's easy for him. I'm saying that with what we've seen from him and what his claws are capable of its possible to do damage.
Tanking explosives and flying debris is impressive and all but it doesn't quite match the concentrated force of a bullet to the head.
Zero was standing off to the side of Wolverine (watch the full clip). The shot that Wolverine took was to the center of his forehead. It is literally impossible to make that a direct shot due to where Zero was standing.
And sure, Blob is strong and all but the punches he were throwing obviously weren't at full strength. If they were then Logan should have been sent flying around with each punch.
The one time I saw Logan get shot in the head in Apocalypse it was on his headgear.
In his fight against Sabertooth in Origins, you forgot that he was so beat up after that that he couldn't even get up even though he was conscious. He wasn't able to simply tank those hits.
Anyway, I'm not saying Wolverine is not tough, I'm just saying that it's not impossible to knock him out with sufficient force, as has been demonstrated multiple times. And if Sabertooth is strong enough to KO him then it's definitely doable for Cage too.
Good matchup in terms of using two characters that have a lot of feats between the two of them.
I can see the fight going either way:
- Luke wins if he can bob-and-weave and make this more of a straight boxing/grappling match.
- Logan wins if he can last through some hits and stab/slash Cage a lot.
Luke has withstood a lot of damage, but Logan's has faced about every kind of attack a comic book movie superhero can in addition to having adamantium claws that should cut Luke.
My vote is with Logan, but Luke could beat him senseless with enough hits.
Luke won't get a clean shot to the head and won't be able to tank the claws at all. He's going to try to tank Wolverine's claws which are going to cripple him, then he's going to die.
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