xPRIMEx
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Does he carry the spirits of all the sith before him? My understanding is that each time an apprentice strikes down their master in anger, the spirit of the master passes into the apprentice.
Mar 22nd, 2020 04:53 PM
xPRIMEx
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Sorry for some reason the title of my thread was deleted. It should say “What did Sidious mean by ‘I am all the sith’”
Mar 22nd, 2020 04:54 PM
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The novel implies that essence transfer was something that Plagueis had discovered/invented, and passed on to Palpatine alone:
quote: Palpatine's very own apprentice had turned against him, the way he himself had turned against Plagueis...whose secret to immortality he had stolen . Plagueis had not acted fast enough in his own moment of death. But Sidious, sensing the flickering light in his apprentice, had been ready for years.
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The transfer was imperfect, and the cloned body wasn't enough. Perhaps Plagueis was having the last laugh after all. Maybe his secret remained secret .
There is no indication that any other Sith(aside from them) was capable of doing this.
But the novel also makes it clear that Palpatine was indeed channeling the power of every Sith before him...
quote: Palpatine raised his perfect, healed hands, and called on all the dark power of the Force and the Sith who had come before him , and pulled their life from their very bodies.
quote: A scavenger girl is no match for the power in me. I am all the Sith !
quote: And it was through that eventual union, unexpected as it was, that Rey was born. The perfect vessel. Strong enough to contain all the power of the Sith .
However, it does not tell us *how* he managed to accumulate said power.
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Mar 22nd, 2020 05:13 PM
Freedon Nadd
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That he is the pinnacle of the Sith Order=strongest of all.
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Mar 22nd, 2020 05:52 PM
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What makes you say that, Nadd?
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Mar 22nd, 2020 05:56 PM
Eli Vanto
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
That he is the pinnacle of the Sith Order=strongest of all.
The novel seems to contradict this opinion tho.
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Mar 23rd, 2020 01:06 PM
The Merchant
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He was literally all the Sith.
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Mar 23rd, 2020 05:53 PM
Zenwolf
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Eli Vanto
The novel seems to contradict this opinion tho.
What doesn't the novel contradict?
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Mar 23rd, 2020 06:26 PM
xPRIMEx
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by The Merchant
He was literally all the Sith.
How so though?
Mar 23rd, 2020 07:25 PM
xPRIMEx
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Yep so the novel confirms that Sidious is literally all of the sith:
"Kill me and my spirit will pass into you. As all the Sith live in me. You will be empress. We will be one."
Mar 26th, 2020 08:03 PM
Rebel95
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Yep. He was literally all the Sith. Pretty sure that line was in the movie^
Mar 26th, 2020 11:00 PM
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