Re: Re: Nintendo should just make a powerful console.
Agreed. I want them to stay in their niche and keep pumping out fantastic games. I have no interest in playing Battlefield on my Switch. I have my PS4, Xbox, and PC for that. Give me a new Fire Emblem game instead.
Well, the topic kinda changed. My stance is the same on Nintendo's console "power", but I agree with Smas that digital distribution is the future. Not just for games, but most things: books, music, movies, etc. We most recently saw this when digital comics became a thing. People would rave about how great having the physical collection is or whatever, myself included, then you realize it really serves no purpose. I had to move and just had long boxes I couldn't do shit with. I sold them and switched to digital, and it's just blatantly the superior option.
Same thing with physical copies of games. Most advantages they hold, like re-selling, won't be around much longer. At least not as a major practice.
You doubted the rise of mobile gaming too though.
I think Smas is right. The writing's on the wall for physical media in general. Just a matter of time.
Last edited by StyleTime on Apr 19th, 2020 at 09:26 PM
Only half joking. Online just isn't as reliable as physical media. Remember that story of Kindle ebooks being remotely erased off of devices because of copyrights issues? That kind of thing can never happen with a book.
Gaming is worse, even the Xbox 360 kept from from gaming a few times because of some odd profile login problems. My Steam and Epic accounts had days with downed internet, no games there.
Meanwhile, pop in a PS2 DVD and just play.
__________________ What CDTM believes;
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
And physical helps preserve certain things we would otherwise lose; certain games never re-released digitally or anything because of being stuck in copyright hell (i.e. Goldeneye) or the company/publisher of said games no longer being around... Is why piracy for games is unfortunately needed to an extent, because we would have a lot of games that would just otherwise be lost to time.
I am not sure what story you are referencing but if its the Orwell's 1984 copyright issue than you have completely wrong.
A company uploaded an illegal copy of the 1984. Amazon found out and remove it because it was illegal. And then...refunded the purchase to anybody who bought it.
No difference if it was found you bought an illegal copy of physical copy of a book.
That illegal copy was already on their device though.
"Illegal" copies of books gets sold and kept all the time. They become highly sought after collectibles.
__________________ What CDTM believes;
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
GTA games and their music lists are a good example. San Andreas just isn't the same without the full set.
That ties into a problem with hd remakes in general. Try looking up the differences between Devil May Cry on the PS2 and the various HD Collections. Those videos are why I abandoned the HD sets I bought and dusted off my PS2 copy.
__________________ What CDTM believes;
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
No distribution method is flawless of course, but I still feel like we can't judge based on fringe scenarios. Your house could burn down and there goes all your physical copies. As a kid, my house was broken into and they took my entire game collection, among other things. Even aside from that, physical media can be damaged or lost. If your internet is down, just play offline games.
Regardless, I feel like I'd rather have the convenience of digital copies. Your purchases have digital records/receipts associated with your account, so replacing downloads isn't hard. I don't have to take anything with me if I travel either. Less stuff to deal with is always good.
Fair, but that's strictly for a select few games of the past, like Einhander, when digital wasn't an option. I don't see that being necessary moving forward as digital becomes the default. Digital games won't risk being lost to time, for the most part.
Last edited by StyleTime on Apr 19th, 2020 at 10:37 PM
You don't really own digital media though. You license it.
That means you can legally be deprived of it, or restricted from it.
The scenerios I mentioned are actually quite common among digital platforms. DRM is always a problem, and internet/data is unreliable.
Take the infamous Lizard Squad time out on Christmas.
__________________ What CDTM believes;
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
Re: Re: Re: Nintendo should just make a powerful console.
They have more third-party support on Switch then they did on Gamecube objectively.
It's great you have no interest in playing games portably, but a lot of us do.
Sometimes people wanna enjoy a game without the hassle of having to sit down for 20 minutes then leave because they have work or plans. The Switch is convenient as hell, and I'm sorry but games look gorgeous on it.
Would they look better on PS4 and Xbone? Yes, and they do, but Breath of the Wild was one of the most beautiful games I've ever played regardless.
However, I do think they need to power-up a teensy bit to survive next-gen.
Soo...it's an illegal copy of a book. They were not even supposed to sell it. As long as the buyers get refunded, that's fine.
If you buy stolen property and people find out..it will get taken away. Hell, in Canada, you can go to jail for it.
The point is moot because digital purchases are becoming the norm for most devices. It's already the norm for all PC purchases and becoming the same with consoles. Once Gamestop fails, it will most likely be the deciding factor because the used game market will completely dry up.
And...gaming subscriptions are becoming the norm as well. In 5 years, you will most likely see all three companies provide a gaming subscription service and it will probably be the most used.
Possession is 9/10's of the law. As long as an item isn't drugs, weapons, or involves minors, what you buy you can keep, regardless of copyright laws or legalities. That's the sellers problem. If anyone gets in legal trouble, it's the vendor, not the consumer.
__________________ What CDTM believes;
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
These were literally the same arguments digital comic detractors used. Cycle repeats.
You only pay for access, but this, in practicality, affects nothing. Online games require internet, whether you own a physical copy or not. Offline games can be played offline in the digital version too. I don't see what's the problem here. I'd be interested in a legit discussion of improving DRM though, like what GOG is doing: it's Steam but truly DRM free.
We can't fabricate doomsday scenarios where we sstruggle to find internet time, our game licenses are all revoked at random, and we wait for illegal game discs in the mail to re-sell though. It's as realistic as me using the shipment delays caused by COVID-19 lockdown against physical media.
The reality is that digital games wouldn't perform so well if the internet was so unreliable. I mean, hell, we do our taxes and renew our licenses online nowadays. The world's getting increasingly virtual. If your connection goes out that often, you should contact your ISP for a quick service call my man. :up
Like I said, fringe scenario. "Hope for illegally distributed game products to come your way" doesnt really work.
Last edited by StyleTime on Apr 20th, 2020 at 06:53 AM
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Apr 19th, 2020 05:45 PM
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