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Snyder excels at comics easily adapted to the screen (300 is a perfect example, he copies everything). He can't handle shared universes; he never could.
I concur the Avengers is far better than any Snyder film but whedon with what time he had left put together a rushed and inferior film. Snyder will complete his vision. Whedon really did not have a chance considering the circumstances either. Warner Bros. is bad at universes but this is AT and T so let us hope it gets better moving forward.
If the power levers are drastically different we'll just have people end up specifying if they're using the Snyder versions of characters.
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It no longer counts. It will be ignored whedon went off the reservation. You could hope for better Superman feats but as it stands this film does not count unless specified. Not canon, kiddo.
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Can you link me to DC saying this movie takes over as canon?
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Zack Snyder made his rep by xeroxing already established properties.
Dawn Of The Dead was a remake.
300 was just doing the Sin City thing and literally putting what was drawn on the page on the big screen. Ditto for Watchmen, missing the fact that Watchmen was designed as a comic and that point should have been making a movie translation of it.
When he's got to find the story himself without a roadmap, he finds difficulties. Sucker Punch was an early warning of this.
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Best thing to come out of this is that the DCAU no longer has to use any of the Snyder Looks or Shit in their Stuff. That blows the Doors off anything MCAU has done since Disney Took oVer.
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None of this changes the fact that the DCEU has been in a holding pattern since the critical and commercial failure of this movie, and DC & Warners have been in some confusion about what to do next. They've already gotten rid of their older Batman and are replacing with with a Batman apparently from a different Earth. Are they eventually going to merge Earth's 1 & 2 together in a Crisis type event to get the right combination at last?
Justice League (as released by Joss Whedon) was a lumbering Frankenstein of muddled mediocrity, but let's not get revisionist about Zack Snyder and his history. Man Of Steel comes out in 2013 and gets polarizing reactions. I wouldn't have picked Snyder as director, but what I liked is how he was a director for hire and Christopher Nolan kept him on a tight leash.
Batman v. Superman comes out in early 2016, Nolan has moved on, and Snyder is doing whatever he wants. The reaction is way worse, and the film under performs relative to expectations. Snyder is already preparing to shoot Justice League by next month, and many fans are screaming to get him replaced before it's too late. DC & Warners decide it's already too late and move forward with him, but launch a pr campaign - Ben Affleck has also become Executive Producer and will supervise, they are going for a hopeful message with this one (they promise!)
Meanwhile, Suicide Squad comes out late that summer and is the worst DCEU film yet. People who have defended Zack Snyder to date as an overseer of the DCEU - like Grace Randolph - start to abandon him. Justice League increasing is giving everyone that sinking feeling.
Spring of 2017 - the film is in post production & Zack Snyder is off the project at last. The official story was he and wife need to deal with their daughter's suicide, but it's later revealed DC & Warners used this reason to get him off the movie because (surprise!) - no change had happened behind the scenes regarding a hopeful message, he had made the same kind of film he always makes. The studio sensed disaster, but then they made their biggest mistake yet - they didn't delay the movie. Because executives at Warners wouldn't get their bonuses from the upcoming merger with AT & T if the film didn't come out in 2017. So their attempt to save the movie helped doom it by forcing Joss Whedon into a mere six months of reshoots and post production.
So nobody won in this story. But let's remember how Zack Snyder was on the wrong track the whole time (and apparently enabled by Geoff Johns, who would quit - or forcibly made to resign - as a production executive for DC films going forward.) Do people remember when he said he thought they were building up to the Injustice universe? Or his idea about making Clark and Bruce's Martha the same woman?
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