And it isn’t exactly a combat move, it was noticeably slow and it is really pushing it to say Aang could even enter avatar state at will until much later in life (using Korra revelations)
Aang having hair didn’t tip you off that the clip isn’t in the correct order?
That is Aang surfing during a storm but I know what you’re talking about in relation to the end of the battle.
But Aang can’t do that in battle he literally had to close his mind and center himself before doing it.
Also no, the fact Aang can’t do half the shit Korra learns from the first Avatar is proof that isn’t the case. And again Aang even if your assertion wasn’t baseless can’t force himself into the Avatar state at will, you could argue he would end up in it at some point but he needs to be completely emotionally wrecked to do it and he has to forgo his own beliefs it’s why he chooses not to master it with the Guru, it’s why he resists training with the Earth General and it’s why he eventually exits it against Ozai before tapping into the asspull of energy bending.
Aang didn't show Avatar Wans' abilities because he didn't exist in the lore when Last Airbender was airing. Lavabending wasn't even a thing non-avatars could do until they changed it for Korra. And lightningbending was so rare only the royal family could do it and Zuko had to train his ass off to figure it out. In Korra its so common its a job. Things change from series to series.
Its safe to say Aang had full knowledge of Wan and his powers since that's how Avatars work.
Also Aang fully unlocked the Avatar State in the crystal caverns when he let Katara go from their emotional attachment. Then Azula blocked it again when she shot him in the back and her lightning sealed his final Chakra point. Then he unlocked it once again when Ozai knocked his lightning scare up against that rock during Sozin's Comet, and he simply had access to it from there. But the series ended right after so we don't see him do much more until Korra.
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there is literally no evidence to support anything you just said. If it was true we wouldn’t have needed the Lion Turtle to teach Aang energy bending and Aang losing a fight and falling on his spine isn’t great evidence that he can use the Avatar state at will and by the fact he has 3 children with Katara it’s even less likely he actually removed his feelings for her that kept him grounded.
I mean we physically see a difference when Aang channels someone he turns into them, there would be no point to this if Aang was always that person. We saw it with Rouku to escape the Fire Monks and against the heir of Chin when he stands trial. His feats in those forms >>> way above his base Avatar state outside of when he was possessed by the Ocean Spirit
You're misremembering a lot. The Lion Turtle never taught Wan how to Energybend as Wan didn't need it, and it's not something an Avatar just knows. Aang was the first person ever taught how to energybend, as he was a Monk and unlike most Avatars, had a serious moral issue with killing. So the LT gave him energybending as a way to fulfill his duty without sullying who he was as a person. And after Korra became the Avatar, Aang taught Energybending to her. They're the only 2 humans to ever know the art. So yes, we did need the Lion Turtle to teach him because he never taught Wan in the first place.
He could already enter the Avatar State at will. Him "letting go" of Katara was the catalyst, but the chakra point was literally blocked by the damage Azula did to him. Tapping that exact same point undid the damage enough that he could use the State again, which is why he immediately went super saiyan on Ozai the exact moment he cracked his spine.
And Guru Pathik never said he had to permanently detach himself from her, just that he had to let go of her and understand he held no attachment to actually unlock the Avatar State. That's obvious by the fact that despite marrying Katara, and having 3 kids, he could effortlessly enter and exit the Avatar State at will the next time we saw him, when Yakone tried to Bloodbend him.
And he doesn't have to channel a specific Avatar to go Avatar State. When he channeled certain people, it was because he had a great need for that specific one, and due to his connection with the Avatars' of the past, they could sense his need and come help him. Keep in mind he didn't willfully summon some of them.
Also no, his fight against Ozai>>>>>>>> every other showing of the Avatar State, but it was simply concentrated against Ozai.
Start at 3:45
Aang letting go of Katara and unlocking the final chakra(Thought Chakra), then immediately getting zapped in the spine by Azula, which locked it again. He heard Guru Pathik in his head telling him to "let her go", and he says I'm sorry because he doesn't want to, but knows he has to. There's literal evidence of him being at the final chakra point evidenced by the giant Aang looking down at him, then the entire vision fading and him falling as the point gets sealed. Because if you die in the Avatar State, the cycle is broken, but he was only nearly dead, so instead his chakra got sealed.
Start around 5:50
100% irrefutable evidence that Aang cracking his chakra point(which is handily noticeable because it's a big honking scar/target on his back)which Azula hit, then he hit against the rock and immediately shows him reconnecting with all the past Avatars and his chakra self reigniting so to speak after it fizzled out before. Then, as if to perfectly show Aang has control, despite literally every past Avatar going for the kill after he brutalizes Ozai with ease, he stops, turns off the Avatar State of his own will, then uses energy bending.
Oh, and the Lion Turtle states in his head as he does it to reiterate that energybending existed "in the era before the Avatar", showing yet again he didn't teach it to Wan, and that it basically worked for Aang because he was incorruptible, and never willing to falter from his views and beliefs, even to save the world. Then Aang raised the ocean levels to travel dozens of miles inland and wash away the fires.
I mean the series ends without showing Aang actually in control and the fact he couldn’t fire bend after obtaining the Avatar state and connecting to Rouku isn’t apparently enough evidence to change your mind.
That's just incorrect. It ends with him in full control, as I pointed out the other Avatars wanted to deal a killing blow to Ozai, then Aang stopped himself, turned normal, displayed so much control and skill that he took Ozai down again without even looking at him, then energybent him into submission. After that was his and Korra finally getting together, all the other sentimental after fight stuff, etc...
And he could firebend perfectly at the end. His initial issue with firebending was because it was so violent and vehemently different from the peaceful ways of Airbending, and more importantly, when he finally did it, he burned Katara which made him so afraid of hurting someone he vowed to never use it again. Then he realized he actually needed it as much as the other elements, got Zuko to train him, and then they discovered the Sun Warriors who invented Firebending and they showed him it was about passion instead of anger, and he figured it out while getting blessed by the Dragons. There was even the whole joke with Aang and Zuko learning the "Dancing Dragon" while Zuko saying it wasn't a dance. And he was firebending in his final Avatar State fine, so I'm not even sure what you're talking about.
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