Kamala isn't so young, she'll hit 60 before the election, but she has youthful vigour and that goes a long way. I actually thought she was a lot younger (45ish) before a few days ago.
Trump does have God on his side but it seems more like a Loki type, or an African trickster god. We don't know what Trump's strange aura will produce or result in yet. Trump is a very strangely lucky man but he's not infallible, he's failed once already. Dems best bet is if they push hard the idea of cross-leftist/liberal Democrat unity to get Harris in. All hands on deck, give people a reason to come out and vote and put fascism back where it belongs for a little longer.
If Trump can somehow distinguish between successful minorities like Obama and Harris to unsuccessful minorities that Obama and Harris are trying to bring in, he could still win.
I think Clinton lost because of the scandals regarding the Clintons and the Podestas. Trump tried the same with Hunter Biden, but he was just too unpopular when COVID broke out. I don't know what baggage Harris has, but if she does, Trump will certainly capitalise on it.
I think Trump can do that bc there's no Mexican or Latin American dem names for him to worry about so far. he could even double down by praising successful minorities like Harris saying it "makes america great" whilst still going hard on "Mexican monsters who dont belong", illegals, etc. Trump has most immigration ppl down already anyway tho. I think a Trump victory comes not from Trump himself but the ability of the GOP to get their ship in order and start pumping out propaganda.
Trump seems out of memes for Kamala. He called her "laughing Kamala". she laughs, okay? she's happy, so what? he's gonna need a harsher name, but too harsh/cruel and he'll start losing undecideds/moderates.
It sho is an exciting yankee dankee doodle elec-shon we is having this harvest.
Oh, also to note it Kamala vs Trump on LAW AND ORDER. Trump wants to be the law and order president, but Harris can feasibly utilise her history as a DA to be like "Law and order? Ur a convicted felon and I'm a judge, who do you trust with law and order?"
There are a lot of details to consider in this face/off. It's impossible for me to say who'll win (I'm usually wrong anyway) but obviously here's hoping the Muricans show Trump the exit sign once and for all.
I mostly dont want Trump to win bc of all my American trans friends, who could lose access to healthcare or even their homes just for being trans under the Republicans. They want to erase us from existence. Every election rn feels so crucial rn, even if the candidates aren't perfect options (see: Keir Stόrmer) we just have to avoid slipping ever further into fascism.
No way, it's endearing! She's like a coked up xanax-and-wine aunt who's spiritually always at a summer barbecue. I think Kamala's laugh is jubilant. Besides, Trump doesn't even laugh. I've never heard him laugh. Harris will crush his miserable japes with her weird off-putting but relatably awkward chortles!
Yeah but just look at the Biden v Trump debate from 4 years ago and the one this time, there was a huge difference in Biden's performance. Plus he was massively behind in the polls compared to where he was polling 4 years ago.
So Trump was defo the fav to win. He might still be against KH. But at least she can get her points across in a debate and in interviews.
I had been thinking that Trump could win it for a while, but it was more of a feeling than anything concrete. I still think Biden would have won; I was going by these early assumptions: That Trump could slow with age by late debates to the point that he becomes as feeble and confused as Biden; that nobody really hates Biden that much other than supporters of Palestine, he hasn't lost substantial mojo from start point really; he already beat Trump; he's the sitting president; Trump has not only not reformed his image to a lot of common voters since losing the presidency, he is now a convicted felon; democrats seem organised and unified other than on the topic of the Palestinian genocide currently being undertaken by Israel.
But like I said before, I'm rarely right with election outcomes, in my native UK I thought Labour would lose, and Tories and Reform would form an alliance like the situation with the Lib Dems in 2010. I had a lot of logical propositions to support my prediction, but I was still wrong, Labour won.
Being so wrong about elections at least keeps them interesting, shrug
Politics are frequently beyond simply weighing up the most logically sound outcomes based on prior knowledge, so I'm not much of an outright political person anymore truthfully, but as a trans person I have to pay attention bc my basic rights and healthcare are perpetually on the ballot, and there's a nascent trans genocide already starting in Red US states, it's only so long until it comes here. Sadly our last election in the UK resulted either way in my enemies getting to power, Keir Starmer is no less cosy with TERF groups than the Tories are. He's also already started raids on small businesses to round up and deport illegals, dude's a jackboot POS cop. He's got some similarities to Kamala, actually, in terms of background. But he's a lot worse, I believe. Truly malignant.
Currently my logical propositions for Kamala vs Trump are still under construction as i think about their dialectic so I'm more interested in hearing what other, intelligent, people have to say
Your Lord knows very well what is in your heart. Your soul suffices this day as a reckoner against you. I need no witnesses. You do not listen to your soul, but listen instead to your anger and your rage.
I went to an open day at Sheffield University to look at the prospects of studying maths, but outside a lot of students were graffitiing the pavement and bridges with "free palestine" everywhere only for council workers to wash it off. It's embarrassing. I'm also not in favour of trans people in women's sports or women's bathrooms. It's an insult to women and feminism and it's hilarious to me that people like JK Rowling and Trump are saying the same things I said in one of my identity and representation seminars at University whilst studying film studies.
For the record, I wrote an essay about representation of women in cinema focusing on Penny Marshal's career and her films, A League Of Their Own (1992) and Riding In Cars With Boys (2001) and got a 2:1.
Just like Trump and Rowling, I respect and cherish women for what they are. I particularly prefer a female doctor over a male doctor any day.
The biggest irony is nobody would say Victoria Beckham has naturally large breasts, they'd think of her as a whore with silicon on her chest. I view men who do that in the same way.
The Palestine issue will mean less votes for the Dems (but not any more votes for Republicans), which obviously gives Republicans higher chances of winning. Like Labour winning huge in the UK solely because the Tory vote collapsed.
So Dems would do well to place someone even slightly more sympathetic to the Palestinian cause as their candidate.
As for the UK, you must be the only one who though Labour would lose. But looking at the vote share they managed it on, your prediction wasn't as insane as I would have thought before the election.
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For the record, bc I'm SURE my weird fans in this thread are dying to know, I don't identify as a woman or a man anymore. I'm nonbinary, transfem. But trans women are women and belong in women's spaces. Other than those weird ppl who call themselves a trans woman but just look, sound, and act like cis men and have no desire to transition: they are neither trans nor women.
Trans men are also men, shock horror. And all trans people are just humans trying to survive a world that is actively trying to murder them for existing.
And Andrew, being schizophrenic doesn't stop you from learning some basic empathy. Jesus, I'm the diagnosed sociopath here, and even I can have empathy for ppl, even weird ones, even trans ppl that freak me out, bc my fascist little impulses are less important than being compassionate.
Your Lord knows very well what is in your heart. Your soul suffices this day as a reckoner against you. I need no witnesses. You do not listen to your soul, but listen instead to your anger and your rage.
Yeah the Palestine situation worries me this election for that reason! Radicals are willing to throw their vote away and let fascism win bc of a foreign genocide that admittedly the Dems do support; I still think a vote blue is a sheer necessity in USA, even if ur a state-hating anarchist, you should vote blue every time without fail, bc it doesn't take long for progress to be undone and conservative authoritarianism to take hold with the GOP. Burning your vote for Palestine is counter-intuitive rebellion, Trump is just as pro-Israel, it's not like there's a viable pro-Palestine candidate. Ppl have to suck it up and vote.
But comparing that to the UK situation is worrying and seems to hold water. If Palestine is divisive enough, Trump doesn't have to get a single vote more than he did last time to feasibly win, the Dems just need to get fewer.
As for Labour, yeah, everyone said they'd win, but you don't know what 14 years of Tory hellscape does to the soul. Eventually, you think they'll just keep winning regardless of anything. That the UK is just Toryland now, we're in this for life, etc. I mean they beat Corbyn, who, despite propaganda, was hugely popular and in his own way populist. The smears didn't make Corbyn lose, the Tories just got more votes bc ppl kept saying "they've come this far so let's let them finish" and other passive idiocy bc they're subservient programmed serfs. In the end, though, it came down to voter
disenfranchisement from the Conservatives as a party entirely, not a Red Wave, a sea-shift to Labour. Labour didn't win; the Tories lost. In fact, Starmer's Labour gained fewer votes in this election than both of the times Corbyn was in charge and running. Hell the independent candidate I voted for (in Starmer's constituency) gained 8k votes whilst Starmer only got 18k lol. That's embarrassing, for a random guy on his own with his own money to garner nearly 1/2 of the votes that the ****ing Prime Minister got on his home turf.
Sorry, British politics makes me spazz out. I much prefer American politics.
Labour did about as well as I expected. I was thinking 390-410 for Labour. SNP did slightly worse than I expected, I thought they'd have 20 seats. Libdems, Reform and Tories did about as well as I expected, but the Greens surprised me.
I bet u any money that hidden Bashar Teg post has something to do with me
Dude's down so bad the second I return. Like I remember him as anything but the "ferret ****er"
Last few times I came back here, I searched my username, turns out Bashar, Adam and Robtard post my name like bi-weekly, sometimes monthly (I didn't read the posts, they are all muted). I did something big to cause such a fuss but I've forgotten what it was because I have a life and only have time for useful or important shit. It was years ago but it seems retards never forget!!
There's no need to get personal, but I find it hilarious that you've adopted the non-binary trend. All these made up genders come across as fashion statements to me. It's not like identifying as Scottish or Polish, it's just made up shit in an attempt to ignore biology. You're no better than insane religious hypocrites. At least you didn't say you were intersex. That's a genuine medical condition and an anomaly. People can be born with a mixture of genitalia and chromosomes, but it's very rare and absolutely not the same as plastic surgery, hormone replacement therapy, steroids or any other drugs for that matter.
It's attention seeking nonsense where they try to dictate language and play the victim at the same time. Like a cvnt.
Your Lord knows very well what is in your heart. Your soul suffices this day as a reckoner against you. I need no witnesses. You do not listen to your soul, but listen instead to your anger and your rage.
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