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The ST being retconned??
These are just UNCONFIRMED rumors right now, but thought it was interesting.
It's said that the events from The Force Awakens, Last Jedi, and Skywalker "will be removed from canon, isolated in their own alternate timeline and regarded as an Elseworlds-like installment under the label of Star Wars Legends."
Regarding how they are going to undo the Disney Star Wars sequels, it involves The Emperor:
Emperor Palpatine had a room on the second Death Star called The Room of Mirrors. The mirrors were created by The Emperor prior to the Death Star through the Dark Side using ancient Sith rituals. These mirrors linked to the Veil of The Force served many purposes. Using them, Palpatine could manipulate The Force in many ways to further his aims. For example, the use of the mirrors allowed Palpatine to cloud the Jedi Council to conceal himself and his dark apprentices from the Jedi and from Force-sensitives that followed their fall.
Using the mirrors allowed Palpatine to access the awesome powers of the Veil of The Force. They were indispensable tools that allowed him to rise to the pinnacle of ultimate power. It is this conceit that explains how Palpatine survived Darth Vader throwing him down the shaft in the throne room of the Death Star. In desperation as he fell, Palpatine opened a portal to the Veil of The Force and entered it. This explains why Palpatine is in such a damaged state in the Rise of Skywalker, as transporting himself into the Veil without the aid of the mirrors drained him and damaged him severely.
But The Emperor created a second set of mirrors on Exegol that allowed him to escape where he plotted the rise of the Empire.
Regarding how things will be reset, it's explained that all one has to do is go into the Veil of Mirrors and wait for Palpatine to enter, as the Veil is "a mystical dimension where in all times collide," which will cause the Disney Star Wars trilogy to "consign to its own alternate timeline forever" as "Palpatine enters the Veil and never gets back to Exegol."
"[The Emperor] is prevented from using the mirrors to return, he dies as he was intended to [in Return of the Jedi], and and all our problems are solved."
So since The Emperor never survives, that means the events from Force Awakens, Last Jedi, and Skywalker never comes to pass in the George Lucas timeline.
"No Disney sequel trilogy, Han doesn't walk stupidly into a lightsaber, Leia doesn't fly like Mary Poppins through space, Luke has nothing to run away from and consumes no green milk, and I am informed there will be no amazing 'wonder Rey' as she was born after The Emperor's death," says Doomcock who notes the particulars are still getting worked on, but that the plan will "retcon the Sequel Trilogy out of our misery and restore freedom to George Lucas' galaxy."
Proof that this may be happening is a scene that was included in Rise of Skywalker which featured Rey confronting her Dark Side self, where mirrors can be seen in the background. It's said it's unknown if Abrams knew what the scene was about, but it "demonstrates the plausibility of this rumor."
Yeah that would just be the worse thing that they could do. Cause then it just shows that they won't stick to what they make and could just throw it away at a moment's notice.
Granted that kinda does already happen with the retcons/changes and whatever that are already going on, but still. They should just stick with what they did, no matter how poorly that was and move on, otherwise no one is going to take any of this seriously.
Also the mirrors just sound really stupid. He had them this whole time as far back as the PT which clouded the Jedi? Well that just drastically reduced his power. Who knows what else these mirrors can do, are they now amplifying him too and that all one needs to do is destroy them?
If he has these mirrors for that long and they could be used in such a way to see everything, then how the hell did Palpatine lose?
No...no, let's hope not for this. The mirrors are just mirrors, that Dark Rey was just some vision thing, it's not anything connected to a bigger thing.
"Hey let's just throw anything we don't like or screw up royally, by using these mirrors!"
I mean does anyone realize how stupid that sounds?
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Last edited by Zenwolf on Jul 1st, 2020 at 02:54 PM
I could see them altering or expanding on a few things by way of TWBW, but I don't see them outright scrapping the entire ST.
Also, that description makes it sound like those "mirrors" allowed Palpatine to directly access TWBW... Something he explicitly could not do on his own as of Rebels. If he had that kind of power, he would have been literally unstoppable.
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Last edited by Galan007 on Jul 1st, 2020 at 03:12 PM
I just saw who is the source, lol.
This Doomcock guy is about as reliable as Mike Zeroh (not reliable at all). Do yourself a favour and ignore anyrhing he says. He is just a bullshiter.
This would mean Disney is a complete failure, it means they lacked organization, they lacked knowledge of the franchise or had no respect for it... but you know what? I’d accept it, because the plot holes of the sequel trilogy are just too much..
The ST is complete shit and should rightfully be scrapped. But there's no need to make up an in-universe explanation for it. Just refuse to acknowledge it and release new works as if it never happened at all.
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His youtube channel is pretty entertaining, but let's be honest --- all those recent news regarding the Star Wars continuity reset are little more than clickbait.
Disney invested too much. Carrie Fisher died. They're not gonna just back-pedal and start anew.
Agree. Shitty as the ST films are, retconning that entire continuity is something I cannot ever imagine Disney doing... Especially in the way Mr. Doomcock described. It would just open up more plot-holes than there already are.
I could totally see them making more subtle retcons/additions to the ST, though. TWBW is the ultimate plot device to make shit like that happen.
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Nah, retconning something like that would be too crazy and potentially result in much worse potentials.
If anything that rumored Exogol film could at the very least be used to explain what was the deal with Palpatine in the ST. Basically, make a film centered about Palpatine while he was on Exogol during his time in the ST. It can also be used to partially explore his origins and even bring Plaguies into the mix if they wanna go there. Also explain his plans and what not.
Would it fix the ST? Hell no, but tie up loose ends at the very least. Make it 3 even 4 hours if need be and there ya go. Not saying this is a fool-proof idea either easily could become a disaster but not on the scale of retconning the ST.
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I just want them to continue Star Wars Legends dude. It ain't gonna ever have the spotlight like back in the day but they could at least mend some of those wounds they made over the last 7 years. What do you think. Where do you want Star Wars to go if this comes out to be true ? I want the past to be restored and continued. Others would rather it stay in its place. And many more have different opinions.
Jul 1st, 2020 02:42 PM
