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No, I wish Sasha Baron Cohen could reinterview him with Who is America but he already rolled him as Ali G and I doubt he'd fall for it again.

he actually cottoned onto Ali G tbh.

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he actually cottoned onto Ali G tbh.


Yeah but still and his entire series Who is America had me laughing in many of the skits, I don't think he will be able to make a second season.

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Yeah but still and his entire series Who is America had me laughing in many of the skits, I don't think he will be able to make a second season.
You say that, but Borat in the stadium with the ethneo type rednecks was genius.

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You say that, but Borat in the stadium with the ethnro type rednecks was genius.


Something like kill the jew song , he did some amazing skits as all his personas.

His mocking of the right and certain right figures that use white boards was hilarious:




I'm not going to post all his stuff but he just does a really good job satorizing the right (doing the redneck trumpish man.)

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Something like kill the jew song , he did some amazing skits as all his personas.

His mocking of the right and certain right figures that use white boards was hilarious:




I'm not going to post all his stuff but he just does a really good job satorizing the right on healthcare in that clip.
Yes it was, he was a bit of a dick to the Kurdistani people when they filmed there.

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I see you've really upped your fiber intake to let your thoughts flow more freely laughing


I'm not even sure what the agenda is here. I know they aren't dumb enough to say cancel culture doesn't exist. Nor are they dumb enough to say it does exist, but that it's not bad.


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Billy Bragg sums up the rights game here and why eventually they will lose.

The latest creation in their war against accountability is “cancel culture”, an ill-defined notion that takes in corporate moves to recognise structural racism, the toppling of statues, social media bullying, public shaming and other diverse attempts to challenge the status quo.

An open letter that is clearly decrying cancel culture (without naming it as such), signed by 150 academics and writers from all sides of the political spectrum, appeared this week in Harper’s Magazine. The signatories complained of a censoriousness that was stifling debate and called for arguments to be settled by persuasion rather than action. Lip service was paid to the menace of Donald Trump, but the main thrust of their argument was a howl of anguish from a group that has suddenly found its views no longer treated with reverence.

Many of those who attached their names to the letter are longstanding cultural arbiters, who, in the past, would only have had to fear the disapproval of their peers. Social media has burst their bubble and they now find that anyone with a Twitter account can challenge their opinions. The letter was their demand for a safe space.

One of the signatories, the New York Times opinion columnist Bari Weiss, touched on the source of this malaise when she claimed recently that a “civil war” was going on across publications and companies across the US between those she described as “the (mostly young) wokes and the (mostly 40+) liberals”. Was it really a surprise to discover that some younger people might hold strong views that diverge with those of older generations?

Her revelation seems to be borne out in the most contentious issue in British politics – Brexit. Opinion is divided less on class or ideological lines, and more by age. Political conflict today is increasingly a battle between the young and the old.

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Billy Bragg still

Over the past decade, the right to make inflammatory statements has become a hot button issue for the reactionary right, who have constructed tropes such as political correctness and virtue signalling to enable them to police the limits of social change while portraying themselves as victims of an organised assault on liberty itself.

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Billy Bragg still

Over the past decade, the right to make inflammatory statements has become a hot button issue for the reactionary right, who have constructed tropes such as political correctness and virtue signalling to enable them to police the limits of social change while portraying themselves as victims of an organised assault on liberty itself.


I read the harpers article and frankly this guy Billy Bragg just paints himself as an illogical censorship master.

Frankly, I know you don't believe/like in free speech so to you this all welcome.

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I read the harpers article and frankly this guy Billy Bragg just paints himself as an illogical censorship master.

Frankly, I know you don't believe/like in free speech so to you this all welcome.
Nah, Billy is anything but that, he is that rare thing an artist who has always put his money where his mouth is. Be it, Rock against Fasism, the miners strike, CND, Poll Tax the wars in Iraq. Billy has always helped the oppreseed find a voice. He is a true hero.

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Nah, Billy is anything but that, he is that rare thing an artist who has always put his money where his mouth is. Be it, Rock against Fasism, the miners strike, CND, Poll Tax the wars in Iraq. Billy has always helped the oppreseed find a voice. He is a true hero.


Lulz he also wants to put a boot heel on freedom of speech with identities of "race, gender" etc being the voice rather than the individuals.

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Lulz he also wants to put a boot heel on freedom of speech with identities of "race, gender" etc being the voice rather than the individuals.
No, he wants the truth.

Over the past decade, the right to make inflammatory statements has become a hot button issue for the reactionary right, who have constructed tropes such as political correctness and virtue signalling to enable them to police the limits of social change while portraying themselves as victims of an organised assault on liberty itself.

Not people being told 2 + 2 = 5 ala the right.

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No, he wants the truth.

Over the past decade, the right to make inflammatory statements has become a hot button issue for the reactionary right, who have constructed tropes such as political correctness and virtue signalling to enable them to police the limits of social change while portraying themselves as victims of an organised assault on liberty itself.

Not people being told 2 + 2 = 5 ala the right.


Those tend to be the words used to hide their authoritarianism, he wants the truth.

The truth is simply a set of beliefs one holds to be accurate in their view, it's not a fact.

Hence why certain ppl believe the word of god is the truth.......they use the same language to drown out dissention.

YEAH the authoritarian left, to stamp out freedom of speech based on what they want to believe without facts. eek!

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Those tend to be the words used to hide their authoritarianism, he wants the truth.

The truth is simply a set of beliefs one holds to be accurate in their view, it's not a fact.

Hence why certain ppl believe the word of god is the truth.......they use the same language to drown out dissention.

YEAH the authoritarian left, to stamp out freedom of speech based on what they want to believe without facts. eek!
Disagree PC, virtue signalling and cancel culture seem far more those kind of words and phrases. You know the ones that imply the sayer is the victim and ask for a safe space from such ideas.

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Looks like republicans want to cancel tick tock now...

https://time.com/5865261/tiktok-trump-campaign-app/

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This pity party thread is awesome laughing top notch! thumb up


I was honestly enjoying the thread until your post. Everything said was reasonable. Cancel culture has been weaponized; it has ruined people’s lives unjustly and we knew as far back as the 1700s that mob justice is utterly terrible.


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I was honestly enjoying the thread until your post. Everything said was reasonable. Cancel culture has been weaponized; it has ruined people’s lives unjustly and we knew as far back as the 1700s that mob justice is utterly terrible.
disagree, but clearly you don't feel cancel culture is yet another example of the reactionary right to both cry victim and ask for a safe space from protest.

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