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White St Louis couple who pointed guns at protesters to face charges

White St Louis couple who pointed guns at protesters to face charges

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Republican governor Mike Parson said in a radio interview on Friday that he would probably pardon them if they were to be convicted of anything.



Oh no

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this is as dumb as it gets lol

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Oh no!! A governor is going to pardon someone who was wrongly convicted for simply exercising their 2nd amendment rights!! This is unacceptable and just proves that the governor is Hitler!! How dare he?! LOL.


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While I understand that it's not necessarily illegal to carry a gun in the States (open carry laws and all that), is it not illegal to actually point it at someone?

I took one gun-safety class and I had things like "never point a gun at anyone unless you plan to use it" and "assume every gun is loaded" drilled in to my head.


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just to be clear, i mean charges to guys defending their property from trespassing, not keking at governor or something

i don't care at all for the BLM stuff, but one law in the US is clear even to me as a European, your property is your fortress

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The only ones that should've been arrested in this case are the left wing prosecutor who is charging them and the cops who violated the couple's rights by searching their property without just cause and illegally confiscating the man's registered firearm.

Yes, I know the cops had a search warrant but imo there was no real cause to issue such a warrant and so the cops shouldn't have searched his house and certainly shouldn't have taken his only means of self-defense. So yeah, the judge who issued the illegal search warrant should be arrested also, imo.


And don't feed me that BS line about the cops were only following orders. It was an illegal order and thus they shouldn't have followed it.


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just to be clear, i mean charges to guys defending their property from trespassing, not keking at governor or something

i don't care at all for the BLM stuff, but one law in the US is clear even to me as a European, your property is your fortress



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While I understand that it's not necessarily illegal to carry a gun in the States (open carry laws and all that), is it not illegal to actually point it at someone?

I took one gun-safety class and I had things like "never point a gun at anyone unless you plan to use it" and "assume every gun is loaded" drilled in to my head.



Well, in Keene, New Hampshire, a couple of college girls complained a guy pointed a shotgun at them from a pickup truck. The response was basically *Shrug*.


Brandishing is definitely against the law though.


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Generally, unless the prosecutor is a political hack. nobody would face charges for displaying a gun in self-defense.


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If convicted they are gonna get pardoned so this is all a waste of time and money.


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Well, in Keene, New Hampshire, a couple of college girls complained a guy pointed a shotgun at them from a pickup truck. The response was basically *Shrug*.


Brandishing is definitely against the law though.
i suspected as much and pointing is a threat to kill surely.

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The problem is they are saying that some of the protesters were threatening them, including one that was clacking ammo clips together.


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Oh yes, absolutely.


In this case they might be able to successfully argue they felt threatened by the protestors. It doesn't hurt that they can point to a like example at a supposedly sympathetic governor, who responded with crackdowns.



And there's also this:



[quote][b]In January, Gardner filed a federal lawsuit accusing the city, the police union and others of a coordinated and racist conspiracy aimed at forcing her out of office. The lawsuit also accused “entrenched interests” of intentionally impeding her efforts to change racist practices.[\b][\quote]


Unless she has some hard evidence, this could make her look like a bit of a conspiracy theorist, and hurt her credibility.


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It basically comes down to whether you believe the mob or whether you believe the couple.

And this couple...they love to file lawsuits. The husband once filed two unrelated lawsuits in the same day.

So lets hope this doesn't wind up costing the city even more money. Even if they sue and lose it will cost the city money.


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