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Anyway, let's just get to the meat and potatoes. We both agree that Yulaw has better speed but that Spidey wins. So, that's really the bottom line.

I guess it is! Thanks for that. big grin


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Thanks King for getting those feats of Yulaw's out, I haven't seen The One since theaters, so I figured I was missing some bigtime feats of his. Didn't realize the speed advantage for Yulaw was so severe.

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Yulaw could bumrush parker with a blade or point blank firearm and Parker isn't dodging it. If Yulaw goes kung fu he loses. He goes straight for the kill and he has any kind of metal object and Parker is screwed

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Maybe I'm missing something here, but didn't Spidey lose to Cap because of how inexperienced he was at fighting? Yulaw is faster than Cap and seems to be a better fighter.

He even struggled against Vulture. Not saying Yulaw wins but I don't think its a clear win for Spidey either.


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^^^well he’s got a lot more experience now than he did in his first appearance.


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^^^well he’s got a lot more experience now than he did in his first appearance.


He's been in a handful of fights. That's definitely more experience but not really that much. At least not enough to suddenly turn him into a very skilled fighter.


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Okey doke.

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Its not like Yulaw has any experience fighting someone several magnitudes stronger and tougher than him either


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Its not like Yulaw has any experience fighting someone several magnitudes stronger and tougher than him either


No, but he has more impressive feats of fighting against skilled opponents who are at least around his level of physicality.

Spiderman defeated Bucky and Falcon who are clearly below him physically. Got defeated by Captain America. Almost lost against Vulture who isn't even superhuman. Lost the first time against Mysterio and only defeated him later on by using prep.

He has some pretty great strength and speed feats but he seems to have trouble applying these to a fight.

If a guy like Vulture can give him a fight then Yulaw is definitely not a sure win for him.


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Spiderman defeated Bucky and Falcon who are clearly below him physically.

They may be below SpiderMan, but Bucky has both strength, durability and skill comparable to Yulaw.
Falcon can fly, has more weapons, and has bulletproof wings. Which Yulaw doesn't


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Got defeated by Captain America.

He got defeated by Captain America using environment and his shield
Neither which Yulaw has.
Plus Cap by feats is stronger and more durable than Yulaw
So unless he has a convenient jetbridge nearby to drop on Peter's head, its an absolutely irrelevant point.

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Lost the first time against Mysterio and only defeated him later on by using prep.

Yeah losing against Mysterio is so bad.°~° roll eyes (sarcastic) Especially when he has dozens of robotic drones that has several kinds of weapons and can generate high level illusions, with a convenient train track nearby. Nothing which Yulaw has. That's really relevant here?
And can Yulaw counter them unlike Peter?
Besides, what great prep did he have? Making a new suit to replace his damaged one? Increasing the taser web's voltage? Something which is his standard gear anyway?
Or what else did the suit have? Parachute? Wings? Again standard gear.
Besides, Peter did not have his usual suit when he fought Mysterio for the first time, another thing you conveniently forgot

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He has some pretty great strength and speed feats but he seems to have trouble applying these to a fight.

I guess that's how it is to you only

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Almost lost against Vulture who isn't even superhuman.


Vulture isn't superhuman? WTF? That harness he is wearing isn't a fashion statement you know

He talons can carry off and fly with a car easy, using it to knock aside a motorcycle and a metal barrier like they aren't even there
https://gfycat.com/rashflimsyargentineruddyduck

Pete snags him by his leg via webbing, but the moment Peter attaches the webbing to a car and lets go he easily pulls the car away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RvnkawH_VA&t=57s

Despite him being already held down by two weblines, Peter can still swing via weblines on him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RvnkawH_VA&t=72s

Can take tasers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RvnkawH_VA&t=82s

Takes this drop out of harness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKMbta7uluU&t=177s

Again without harness, does this leap straight up without building any momentum.
https://gfycat.com/sanecandidhorseshoecrab


Those wings of his can slice through metal no problem
https://gfycat.com/DistantLoneFrigatebird

Or smash through concrete pillars and walls like nothing
https://gfycat.com/euphoricthoughtfuljenny

And both fast enough and tough enough to block and withstand bullets
https://gfycat.com/partialdelectableghostshrimp

Not even slowed down by Herman jumping onto his back

https://static.comicvine.com/upload...%20%2824%29.gif

His new harness in the climax had rocket boosters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nME6zIsz29o

Cuts through the side of plane with both wings and talons
https://gfycat.com/ThoroughYoungGazelle
https://gfycat.com/KnobbyScratchyAllensbigearedbat

Rips off the panel Peter attached them too
https://gfycat.com/selfassuredjovialblacklab

The wing trapped in jet turbine only damages the turbine
https://gfycat.com/HarmoniousSafeKilldeer

Holds up a metal crate with one talon while in an awkward position
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A95znmfX4Bw&t=12s

Knock aside debris with damaged wings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A95znmfX4Bw&t=95s

Carry off a large metal container despite damaged wings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A95znmfX4Bw&t=165s

You also conveniently forget this almost loss was after being in a goddamn plane crash. What's next? Cap and WS suck 'cause they got beat up by Tony Stark, and he's not superhuman?

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If a guy like Vulture can give him a fight then Yulaw is definitely not a sure win for him.

Actually Peter giving Vulture a fight means Yulaw has no chance

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No, but he has more impressive feats of fighting against skilled opponents who are at least around his level of physicality.

Yulaw has one fight where he fought someone of his physicals, but with far less experience of using powers, and lost.

Heck, Gabe fought Yulaw with a gunshot wound on his arm
https://streamable.com/l7tg4

Every other times its ordinary humans, who can and have stood upto him

Going by your logic, Yulaw dies within seconds of fighting Spider Man because he was given trouble by two ordinary humans who dodged his attacks and fought back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJu8ZvXWiAU

He was tagged by a pickup truck he saw coming and incapacitated immediately

https://streamable.com/rrquo
The criminals he fought in the climax keep coming for more
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5NxekPmVvLA

He even failed to knock out the cops he hit here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQLa80EtCz4&t=123s

And again here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKDE-1QO2Bs&t=180s

Heck the cop is still conscious after he hit him with two motorcycles. And unlike Peter, he has zero reason to hold back. What a weakling eh?


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The more and more you post, the more it seems like for you its less supporting Yulaw and more bashing Spider Man.
Whatever


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Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
They may be below SpiderMan, but Bucky has both strength, durability and skill comparable to Yulaw.
Falcon can fly, has more weapons, and has bulletproof wings. Which Yulaw doesn't



He got defeated by Captain America using environment and his shield
Neither which Yulaw has.
Plus Cap by feats is stronger and more durable than Yulaw
So unless he has a convenient jetbridge nearby to drop on Peter's head, its an absolutely irrelevant point.


Yeah losing against Mysterio is so bad.°~° roll eyes (sarcastic) Especially when he has dozens of robotic drones that has several kinds of weapons and can generate high level illusions, with a convenient train track nearby. Nothing which Yulaw has. That's really relevant here?
And can Yulaw counter them unlike Peter?
Besides, what great prep did he have? Making a new suit to replace his damaged one? Increasing the taser web's voltage? Something which is his standard gear anyway?
Or what else did the suit have? Parachute? Wings? Again standard gear.
Besides, Peter did not have his usual suit when he fought Mysterio for the first time, another thing you conveniently forgot


I guess that's how it is to you only



Vulture isn't superhuman? WTF? That harness he is wearing isn't a fashion statement you know

He talons can carry off and fly with a car easy, using it to knock aside a motorcycle and a metal barrier like they aren't even there
https://gfycat.com/rashflimsyargentineruddyduck

Pete snags him by his leg via webbing, but the moment Peter attaches the webbing to a car and lets go he easily pulls the car away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RvnkawH_VA&t=57s

Despite him being already held down by two weblines, Peter can still swing via weblines on him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RvnkawH_VA&t=72s

Can take tasers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RvnkawH_VA&t=82s

Takes this drop out of harness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKMbta7uluU&t=177s

Again without harness, does this leap straight up without building any momentum.
https://gfycat.com/sanecandidhorseshoecrab


Those wings of his can slice through metal no problem
https://gfycat.com/DistantLoneFrigatebird

Or smash through concrete pillars and walls like nothing
https://gfycat.com/euphoricthoughtfuljenny

And both fast enough and tough enough to block and withstand bullets
https://gfycat.com/partialdelectableghostshrimp

Not even slowed down by Herman jumping onto his back

https://static.comicvine.com/upload...%20%2824%29.gif

His new harness in the climax had rocket boosters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nME6zIsz29o

Cuts through the side of plane with both wings and talons
https://gfycat.com/ThoroughYoungGazelle
https://gfycat.com/KnobbyScratchyAllensbigearedbat

Rips off the panel Peter attached them too
https://gfycat.com/selfassuredjovialblacklab

The wing trapped in jet turbine only damages the turbine
https://gfycat.com/HarmoniousSafeKilldeer

Holds up a metal crate with one talon while in an awkward position
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A95znmfX4Bw&t=12s

Knock aside debris with damaged wings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A95znmfX4Bw&t=95s

Carry off a large metal container despite damaged wings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A95znmfX4Bw&t=165s

You also conveniently forget this almost loss was after being in a goddamn plane crash. What's next? Cap and WS suck 'cause they got beat up by Tony Stark, and he's not superhuman?


Actually Peter giving Vulture a fight means Yulaw has no chance


Yulaw has one fight where he fought someone of his physicals, but with far less experience of using powers, and lost.

Heck, Gabe fought Yulaw with a gunshot wound on his arm
https://streamable.com/l7tg4

Every other times its ordinary humans, who can and have stood upto him

Going by your logic, Yulaw dies within seconds of fighting Spider Man because he was given trouble by two ordinary humans who dodged his attacks and fought back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJu8ZvXWiAU

He was tagged by a pickup truck he saw coming and incapacitated immediately

https://streamable.com/rrquo
The criminals he fought in the climax keep coming for more
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5NxekPmVvLA

He even failed to knock out the cops he hit here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQLa80EtCz4&t=123s

And again here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKDE-1QO2Bs&t=180s

Heck the cop is still conscious after he hit him with two motorcycles. And unlike Peter, he has zero reason to hold back. What a weakling eh?


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With the exception of speed (where Yulaw has the advantage), you basically have to match Yulaw's high-ends with Peter's low-ends to make an argument for Yulaw winning here without him having some kind of bladed weapon or something.


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Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
The more and more you post, the more it seems like for you its less supporting Yulaw and more bashing Spider Man.
Whatever


Well yes, because I never claimed Yulaw wins. All I'm saying is that I don't think Spiderman wins this as easily as you guys think because I feel like you're focusing too much on singular feats of Spiderman and neglecting how he performs in fights.

It's not about bashing Spiderman but about being honest with his fight performances.


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Like I said dude, whatever ¯\_(ツwink_/¯ .


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Vulture isn't superhuman that is accurate. He is like Iron Man in that aspect. But they are capable of fighting superhumans via technology.

Anyways, Spidey wins this fight.


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